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Post by lancastrian on Mar 25, 2021 20:08:25 GMT
Sefton is one of the more stupid 1974 creations still with us and I'd happily see it go... as long they realign county boundaries in a sensible way afterwards.
A lot of people hated Humberside, but when they got rid of it, we were still left with a really fucked up 'regional' boundary between Lincolnshire, and N/NE Lincs.
Oh, as a resident of Sefton, I couldn't agree more. It takes an hour to go from one end to the other, there is hardly any real connection between Bootle and Southport in any meaningful sense and it means that just about every cross borough activity has to be repeated as its not realistic to expect people to go from one end to the other Southport's problem is that they want to be a unitary borough, but its not big enough, particularly given the age profile. The 'Southport back to Lancashire' campaign is somewhat hypocritical as they only want to be in Lancashire for postal purposes! However, there is a case for creating Southport as a county borough - with the way things are going it would end up in some sort ofLancashire unitary anyway It would be relatively easy to move Formby into West Lancs, and that would also open up the option for West Lancs to join the Liverpool City Region, which makes sense on all sorts of levels. Bootle and Crosby are Liverpool suburbs anyway. If Lancashire is going to end up with unitary councils (ugh) merging West Lancs with Southport and Formby would surely be more sensible than keeping Sefton and putting West Lancs with Preston. Current ridiculous government thinking would probably say it was too small though.
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 25, 2021 20:15:09 GMT
Oh, as a resident of Sefton, I couldn't agree more. It takes an hour to go from one end to the other, there is hardly any real connection between Bootle and Southport in any meaningful sense and it means that just about every cross borough activity has to be repeated as its not realistic to expect people to go from one end to the other Southport's problem is that they want to be a unitary borough, but its not big enough, particularly given the age profile. The 'Southport back to Lancashire' campaign is somewhat hypocritical as they only want to be in Lancashire for postal purposes! However, there is a case for creating Southport as a county borough - with the way things are going it would end up in some sort ofLancashire unitary anyway It would be relatively easy to move Formby into West Lancs, and that would also open up the option for West Lancs to join the Liverpool City Region, which makes sense on all sorts of levels. Bootle and Crosby are Liverpool suburbs anyway. If Lancashire is going to end up with unitary councils (ugh) merging West Lancs with Southport and Formby would surely be more sensible than keeping Sefton and putting West Lancs with Preston. Current ridiculous government thinking would probably say it was too small though. Well, there is a good economic case for West Lancs being in the Liverpool City Region. Formby has no desire to leave. Southport could be added to Preston. And West Lancs could be part of Sefton if they didn't want to scrap it, replacing Southport. Of course, West Lancs could simply be added to Sefton as it is currently constituted
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Post by European Lefty on Mar 25, 2021 21:14:42 GMT
How about Southport as a non-Metropolitan district within Lancashire?
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 25, 2021 21:26:13 GMT
How about Southport as a non-Metropolitan district within Lancashire? Yes. I mentioned that earlier but of course Southport's get out of Sefton campaigners don't want that option
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Post by Foggy on Mar 25, 2021 22:09:12 GMT
I was surprised to see that Skelmersdale and Ormskirk are not part of the Liverpool City Region when Halton is. It was discussed at the beginning and there was certainly some interest in those places becoming part of the City region. I'm not sure on what issues the interest subsided. Halton really ought to be moved out of Cheshire - its an anomaly that its still covered by Cheshire for policing purposes, for example. Halton is an abomination (as are "City regions"). Runcorn should definitely stay as part of Cheshire; Widnes should never have been brought under its purview in the first place. The latter is still part of the ceremonial county when it was never in the traditional county, which is an absurd state of affairs.
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Post by greenhert on Mar 31, 2021 15:26:00 GMT
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 2, 2021 9:52:03 GMT
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Post by Wisconsin on May 12, 2021 23:29:03 GMT
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Post by Wisconsin on May 12, 2021 23:30:31 GMT
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Post by Wisconsin on May 12, 2021 23:31:08 GMT
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Post by Wisconsin on May 12, 2021 23:32:12 GMT
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Post by Wisconsin on May 13, 2021 17:01:16 GMT
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Post by Wisconsin on May 13, 2021 17:30:11 GMT
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Post by andrewteale on May 27, 2021 20:37:37 GMT
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Post by evergreenadam on May 28, 2021 8:44:27 GMT
The local authority can change the name of the ward itself if necessary e.g. Wandsworth did it with Putney Heath
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Post by Wisconsin on May 28, 2021 10:54:32 GMT
The local authority can change the name of the ward itself if necessary e.g. Wandsworth did it with Putney Heath When did this happen? EDIT: Oh I see something happened in 2010. Annoyingly the LGBCE is missing a link to the ‘Letter’ that presumably made the change official. Are there any more details online?
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Post by Wisconsin on May 28, 2021 11:05:55 GMT
I think the legislative power to rename a ward is s59 of Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Act 2007. Has a whole lot of hoops to go through, particularly in the five years immediately after an LGBCE review. www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/28/section/59In any case, here my guess is the LGBCE will simply remake the order and/or publish a correction slip.
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Post by Wisconsin on May 28, 2021 11:09:48 GMT
Did we know Tower Hamlets was in the middle of this process, and recently completed the statutory consultation? They want to rename Canary Wharf ward Millwall: talk.towerhamlets.gov.uk/wardnames
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Post by No Offence Alan on May 28, 2021 11:18:54 GMT
Did we know Tower Hamlets was in the middle of this process, and recently completed the statutory consultation? They want to rename Canary Wharf ward Millwall: talk.towerhamlets.gov.uk/wardnamesNobody would like that, but they wouldn't care.
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Post by carlton43 on May 28, 2021 11:35:11 GMT
Did we know Tower Hamlets was in the middle of this process, and recently completed the statutory consultation? They want to rename Canary Wharf ward Millwall: talk.towerhamlets.gov.uk/wardnamesNobody would like that, but they wouldn't care. The whole place is a den of iniquity.
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