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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 25, 2019 18:23:22 GMT
The dataset seems to miss the electorate in the City of London seat in quite a few of the early years leaving that as the only GB seat with that information missing. Are the figures just not available or there is another reason it is not there? "-1" means unopposed - i thought, that "-2" is 2 unopposed? Though they do also not present the numbers of the Cities' electorate (different to the "-1"). |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 25, 2019 18:27:43 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 9, 2019 10:24:31 GMT
Our agents are everywhere, altering the discourse, amending the figures.... |
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Post by distingflyer on Dec 29, 2019 1:55:44 GMT
Over the last few years, have built up a datafile of my own encompassing elections from 1885 to the present: drive.google.com/open?id=1dYxOhd1afsae8DNN-tSN77Uuk6ZUKi0OA couple of items to note: Firstly, the italicized constituencies (1885 to 1970) indicate constituencies that roughly fall within modern-day Greater London; Secondly, the Irish figures from 1885 to 1918 are taken from Walker's Parliamentary Election Results in Ireland, 1801-1922, which lack tables totalling the vote by party at each election; therefore, there may be some errors in my figures as I wasn't able to cross-check my totals with anything definite (though I've gone over them several times, I can't promise there are no mistakes!). Thirdly, there are some hidden columns indicating swing figures for elections from 1959 to the present (doing it pre-1945 didn't make as much sense due to parties not always contesting a seat two elections in a row - Labour, then Liberal, then both, then just one again, and so forth, for instance). Fourthly, the vote percentages from 1885 to 1945 have been adjusted for dual-member constituencies rather than simply being taken from the raw totals (this is why the 1945 percentages, for instance, are 48.0%-39.6% as opposed to 47.7%-39.7%). (Additionally, my thanks to Georg Ebner, who alerted me to this site from uselectionatlas. Looking forward to some stimulating discussions . . . ) |
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Post by bjornhattan on Dec 29, 2019 2:17:08 GMT
Over the last few years, have built up a datafile of my own encompassing elections from 1885 to the present: drive.google.com/open?id=1dYxOhd1afsae8DNN-tSN77Uuk6ZUKi0OA couple of items to note: Firstly, the italicized constituencies (1885 to 1970) indicate constituencies that roughly fall within modern-day Greater London; Secondly, the Irish figures from 1885 to 1918 are taken from Walker's Parliamentary Election Results in Ireland, 1801-1922, which lack tables totalling the vote by party at each election; therefore, there may be some errors in my figures as I wasn't able to cross-check my totals with anything definite (though I've gone over them several times, I can't promise there are no mistakes!). Thirdly, there are some hidden columns indicating swing figures for elections from 1959 to the present (doing it pre-1945 didn't make as much sense due to parties not always contesting a seat two elections in a row - Labour, then Liberal, then both, then just one again, and so forth, for instance). Fourthly, the vote percentages from 1885 to 1945 have been adjusted for dual-member constituencies rather than simply being taken from the raw totals (this is why the 1945 percentages, for instance, are 48.0%-39.6% as opposed to 47.7%-39.7%). (Additionally, my thanks to Georg Ebner, who alerted me to this site from uselectionatlas. Looking forward to some stimulating discussions . . . ) That is a brilliant first post, welcome aboard! Have you thought about including European Parliament elections in your datafile? You have data for the referendum, so I don't think it would be outside the scope of your project, though at various points the results have been reported in many different ways (initially by their own constituencies, but also by Westminster constituency, and now by Local Authority), which might make swing calculations difficult. |
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Post by distingflyer on Dec 29, 2019 2:22:32 GMT
Over the last few years, have built up a datafile of my own encompassing elections from 1885 to the present: drive.google.com/open?id=1dYxOhd1afsae8DNN-tSN77Uuk6ZUKi0OA couple of items to note: Firstly, the italicized constituencies (1885 to 1970) indicate constituencies that roughly fall within modern-day Greater London; Secondly, the Irish figures from 1885 to 1918 are taken from Walker's Parliamentary Election Results in Ireland, 1801-1922, which lack tables totalling the vote by party at each election; therefore, there may be some errors in my figures as I wasn't able to cross-check my totals with anything definite (though I've gone over them several times, I can't promise there are no mistakes!). Thirdly, there are some hidden columns indicating swing figures for elections from 1959 to the present (doing it pre-1945 didn't make as much sense due to parties not always contesting a seat two elections in a row - Labour, then Liberal, then both, then just one again, and so forth, for instance). Fourthly, the vote percentages from 1885 to 1945 have been adjusted for dual-member constituencies rather than simply being taken from the raw totals (this is why the 1945 percentages, for instance, are 48.0%-39.6% as opposed to 47.7%-39.7%). (Additionally, my thanks to Georg Ebner, who alerted me to this site from uselectionatlas. Looking forward to some stimulating discussions . . . ) That is a brilliant first post, welcome aboard! Have you thought about including European Parliament elections in your datafile? You have data for the referendum, so I don't think it would be outside the scope of your project, though at various points the results have been reported in many different ways (initially by their own constituencies, but also by Westminster constituency, and now by Local Authority), which might make swing calculations difficult. Haven't really thought about those, though the pre-1999 results could work well (pure regional list systems aren't that interesting); I have made a similar dataset for Scottish Parliament elections, which I'll put up (see below), and may eventually do the same for Wales. drive.google.com/open?id=1dVahXQot-s_Cx7A-0mucF54emmGq36mx |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 30, 2019 19:11:09 GMT
(Additionally, my thanks to Georg Ebner, who alerted me to this site from uselectionatlas. Looking forward to some stimulating discussions . . . ) Be very welcome here! P.scr.: If You want to make the results before 1885, but don't want to buy the books: I haven't bought Craig either; yet, i copied (& coloured) the results since 1832 and can scan them for You, if You like. |
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Post by distingflyer on Dec 30, 2019 19:31:23 GMT
(Additionally, my thanks to Georg Ebner, who alerted me to this site from uselectionatlas. Looking forward to some stimulating discussions . . . ) Be very welcome here! P.scr.: If You want to make the results before 1885, but don't want to buy the books: I haven't bought Craig either; yet, i copied (& coloured) the results since 1832 and can scan them for You, if You like. Yes please - thank you! |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jan 2, 2020 8:03:47 GMT
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Post by distingflyer on Jan 27, 2020 3:11:33 GMT
Many thanks for these. Have made a few changes & corrections to my own file, and have added the 1975 EEC referendum results. Am working on turnout figures now, but it will likely be a while before those are complete and able to be added to the polished file on Drive. |
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Post by distingflyer on Feb 16, 2020 19:09:54 GMT
Turnout data nearly finished (a little faster than expected!) but with a couple of questions:
Firstly, Craig's books show, for two-member constituencies, estimates/counts of how many people voted as well as the number of votes cast, using the former to estimate the turnout. Although a turnout figure of 65.8% was produced for the Cambridge University constituency in 1906, the voting figure for that seat wasn't listed, on the grounds that it was overly complicated. Additionally, Walker's books on Ireland don't provide either a turnout estimate or a count of how many people voted in the dual-member Cork & University seats, although the Rallings/Thrasher Electoral Facts books clearly indicate that such a count has been made somewhere (Dublin was the only university to vote in 1892, with a listed turnout of 56.2%). Curiously, while the constituency turnout figures seem to be based on this method, the national turnout figures for 1885 through 1945 appear to be based just on dividing the number of votes cast in dual-member constituencies by half (1945, for instance, produces a turnout of 73.0% with the first method, and 72.8% with the second).
Secondly, there are a couple of elections where the electorate figures still don't seem to square with the published grand totals - it may just be my own mistakes that I've yet to catch, or perhaps a typo in the reference (I did actually spot one for two Cardiff constituencies in 1974, where the electorate figures had been switched in the book). To wit, my Irish total for 1918 is off by exactly 1000; I suspect that there may be an error in Meath, which has electorates of 14716 in both of its constituencies according to the book. I also am off by ninety voters in England, which may just be a counting error on my part that I just have yet to spot somehow. I'm also still a little off for the 1987 through 1997 elections (all of them have their errors in England), with 1987 off by just four electors, 1992 by ninety and 1997 by 191.
EDIT: Have also updated the file on the drive link to reflect the turnout data recorded thus far; considered placing it on separate sheets, but ultimately put it on the same ones as the electoral data (electorate columns hidden as well as votes cast columns for 1885-1945 elections, and turnout columns visible).
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Post by distingflyer on Feb 22, 2020 1:12:53 GMT
Seems there is indeed a typo in the 1918-49 book (the 1918 electorate figure for Hexham, which is revealed by the turnout percentage). I'm beginning to think that there are ones in 1987, 1992 & 1997 somewhere, since multiple sweeps through those electorate numbers haven't squared the numbers (in fact, the latest check of 1997 increased the difference from 191 to 491).
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 22, 2020 1:15:01 GMT
How are you dealing with the Central Wandsworth problem?
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 22, 2020 1:27:19 GMT
Over the last few years, have built up a datafile of my own encompassing elections from 1885 to the present: drive.google.com/open?id=1dYxOhd1afsae8DNN-tSN77Uuk6ZUKi0OA couple of items to note: Firstly, the italicized constituencies (1885 to 1970) indicate constituencies that roughly fall within modern-day Greater London; Secondly, the Irish figures from 1885 to 1918 are taken from Walker's Parliamentary Election Results in Ireland, 1801-1922, which lack tables totalling the vote by party at each election; therefore, there may be some errors in my figures as I wasn't able to cross-check my totals with anything definite (though I've gone over them several times, I can't promise there are no mistakes!). Thirdly, there are some hidden columns indicating swing figures for elections from 1959 to the present (doing it pre-1945 didn't make as much sense due to parties not always contesting a seat two elections in a row - Labour, then Liberal, then both, then just one again, and so forth, for instance). Fourthly, the vote percentages from 1885 to 1945 have been adjusted for dual-member constituencies rather than simply being taken from the raw totals (this is why the 1945 percentages, for instance, are 48.0%-39.6% as opposed to 47.7%-39.7%). (Additionally, my thanks to Georg Ebner, who alerted me to this site from uselectionatlas. Looking forward to some stimulating discussions . . . ) Just noticed a very minor error. The Tory majority in SE Staffs in 1987 was 10,885 not 11,241 since the Alliance officially overtook Labour that year (although a lot of us think there was a counting error on the night). |
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Post by distingflyer on Feb 22, 2020 1:29:12 GMT
How are you dealing with the Central Wandsworth problem? Not quite sure to what you're referring - the figures for that constituency (from 1918 through 1945) seemed fine. |
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