2013 review final consultation

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Aug 17, 2014 11:57:07 GMT joe said:

Aug 17, 2014 11:52:22 GMT doktorb🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ said:

"Submissions should not significantly exceed 3,000 words"

Oh dear.

You clearly have a lot of time on your hands if you have written more than that.

I have a lot to say on the subject, you may have noticed

[Deleted]

2,173 words. Take that, Committee.

[Deleted]

The BCE has now blanked its regional pages, the slow, slow, slow death of the website continues.

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Warwickshire - www.lgbce.org.uk/current-reviews/west-midlands/warwickshire/warwickshire-county-council

[Adrian]

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/political-and-constitutional-reform-committee/inquiries/parliament-2010/what-next-redrawing-parliamentary-boundaries/ Deadline is now 17 October

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Oh look. This board seems to be responsible for three out of the five submissions from individuals:

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/political-and-constitutional-reform-committee/inquiries/parliament-2010/what-next-redrawing-parliamentary-boundaries/

[J.G.Harston]

Oct 13, 2014 17:56:33 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Oh look. This board seems to be responsible for three out of the five submissions from individuals:

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/political-and-constitutional-reform-committee/inquiries/parliament-2010/what-next-redrawing-parliamentary-boundaries/

Oo, you've reminded me I've got to send mine in!

[Deleted]

Oct 13, 2014 17:56:33 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Oh look. This board seems to be responsible for three out of the five submissions from individuals:

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/political-and-constitutional-reform-committee/inquiries/parliament-2010/what-next-redrawing-parliamentary-boundaries/

An interesting array of points to discuss, from all of us and others. I could point to all manner of things but, almost as though by habit, I am drawn to this from the Boundary Commission for England;

12.What the Commissions’ plans are for the next general review (in terms of
timings for commencement and reporting).
The BCE is currently involved in planning and preparation for the commencement of
the next Review, and is working towards a formal launch for that Review around the
end of February 2016. On the basis of the current legislation remaining unchanged,
the BCE is likely to require the full amount of time allowed for a Review and
therefore currently anticipates submitting its final report of the next Review in
September 2018

[Crimson King]

is it just me but I cpuldnt see any actual points - just the front page saying submissions were requested

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Go down to the bottom, change the popup from 'Oral evidence' to 'Written evidence', then click 'Go'.

[Crimson King]

Thanks

[johnloony]

Oct 13, 2014 17:56:33 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Oh look. This board seems to be responsible for three out of the five submissions from individuals:

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/political-and-constitutional-reform-committee/inquiries/parliament-2010/what-next-redrawing-parliamentary-boundaries/

Blimey! Don't these sorts of consultations (on various political or psephological subjects) usually have hundreds of submissions? (Mind you, if there are so few then it means that each individual submission will bear greater weight as evidence and influence)

[psephos]

Has anyone read these submissions? Boothroyd on another thread has moaned about taking trifles too seriously; yet he has put forth an utter tissue of lies to the Select Committee on the boundary review.

[Davıd Boothroyd]

More written evidence uploaded: www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/political-and-constitutional-reform-committee/inquiries/parliament-2010/what-next-redrawing-parliamentary-boundaries/?type=Written#pnlPublicationFilter

From Lewis Baston, London Borough Of Lambeth, Craig Aston, Adrian Bailey, The Conservative Party, and Robert Antony Hayward. As they're all written cogently I guess none of them is from Psephos.

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12. In the case of the Northern and Western Isles, I suggest that each sends a “proportional
member” to parliament. This would mean that the Northern Isles would send an MP with 0.5
of a vote in parliament, and the Western Isles would send an MP with 0.33 of a vote. This is
the best compromise, since it reduces the over-representation without attempting to
combined these islands with the distant mainland.

[greatkingrat]

And the member for the Isle of Wight gets 1.5 votes?

[john07]

Oct 24, 2014 18:25:25 GMT greatkingrat said:

And the member for the Isle of Wight gets 1.5 votes?

Let's go for an old style Labour Party 'card vote' in the Commons. All member would get votes according to their electorate.

[J.G.Harston]

Oct 26, 2014 15:59:59 GMT john07 said:

Oct 24, 2014 18:25:25 GMT greatkingrat said:

And the member for the Isle of Wight gets 1.5 votes?

Let's go for an old style Labour Party 'card vote' in the Commons. All member would get votes according to their electorate.

Ayes to the right, fourteen million, six hundred and twenty-three thousand, four hundred and two.
Noes to the left, sixteen millions, two hundred and fourty-four thousand, six hundred and fifty four.
The Noes have it, the Noes have it.

[johnloony]

The idea of MPs having different numbers of votes when they vote in the House of Commons has been used occasionally as the basis for some proposals for proportional representation: the voters vote for a candidate, and then that candidate is elected as an MP with that number of votes. There would obviously have to be suitable thresholds of how many votes a candidate would need to get to qualify as an MP, and how many MPs there would be, but it would remove the need for fiddly and awkward methods of transferring votes, selecting candidates within party lists, and equalising constituency boundaries.

[J.G.Harston]

Oct 27, 2014 0:08:56 GMT johnloony said:

The idea of MPs having different numbers of votes when they vote in the House of Commons has been used occasionally as the basis for some proposals for proportional representation ...

...and electors with an 'A' level get one votes, with a degree get two votes, with a doctorate get three votes. (five minutes googling hasn't reminded me who proposed this)