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Post by stb12 on Nov 5, 2024 10:31:26 GMT
Would probably have lost the whip by now as she would have likely voted against the two-child benefit cap. I wonder if Plaid will try and sign her up ahead of 2026? Yes. She is very impressive - she is on the left and also a Welsh speaker. Plaid Cymru is a possibility - perhaps a PC MS? She’d need to be a Welsh independence convert then surely regardless of left wing ideology?
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 5, 2024 10:48:34 GMT
Not surprising on one level, but would she have done the same if she was still an MP? Would probably have lost the whip by now as she would have likely voted against the two-child benefit cap. I wonder if Plaid will try and sign her up ahead of 2026? She might, she might not - some on the left of the party had more sense than to lose the whip over a futile gesture.
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 5, 2024 11:16:36 GMT
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Post by stb12 on Nov 5, 2024 11:25:34 GMT
So she sounds sympathetic and open to the idea of independence or more radical devolution there, it maybe wouldn't be that big a step. But i'd still assume to be in Plaid you need to be 100% for independence, certainly the case for the SNP here
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Post by carolus on Nov 5, 2024 14:03:52 GMT
Devon, Newon Abbot South (2025). Janet Bradford, South Devon Alliance to Independent. Sic transit gloria SDA.
Currently Teignbridge council website lists Teignbridge, Ambrook (2027). Paul Parker, SDA to Independent Group. Teignbridge, Kerswell-with-Combe (2027). Jane Taylor, SDA to Independent Group.
and certainly given her change on the CC also: Teignbridge, College (2027). Jane Badford, SDA to Independent Group.
But I imagine given the article the others will follow shortly, who are: Teignbridge, Ambrook (2027). Richard Daws, SDA to Independent (No Group)
Teignbridge, Buckland & Milber (2027). Alex Hall, SDA to Independent (No Group)
Teignbridge, Buckland & Milber (2027). Mike Ryan, SDA to Independent.
Teignbridge, College (2027). Liam Mullone, SDA to Independent.
Teignbridge, Kingsteignton East (2027). Keeley Gearon, SDA to Independent (No Group)
Teignbridge, Bishopsteignton (2027). Andrew MacGregor, SDA to Independent.
Buckinghamshire, Wing (2025). Diana Blamire, Conservative to Independent.
Northumberland, Newbiggin Central & East (2025). Elizabeth Simpson, Labour to Independent.
Tower Hamlets, Lansbury. Jahed Choudhury, Aspire to Independent.
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Post by ricmk on Nov 5, 2024 14:56:12 GMT
Surprised about Diana Blamires I know her a little and she's hyper active online. Seems a very locally rooted true blue Tory.
I wonder what's going on - another thread suggested there might be some selection shenanigans going on in Bucks.
EDIT: she’s confirmed to me it‘s selection-related. All I can say is that the selected candidates must be very very strong if she‘s not made it.
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Post by batman on Nov 5, 2024 15:03:40 GMT
So she sounds sympathetic and open to the idea of independence or more radical devolution there, it maybe wouldn't be that big a step. But i'd still assume to be in Plaid you need to be 100% for independence, certainly the case for the SNP here I don't think that membership of Plaid Cymru is dependent on total support for independence, as they are less fundamental on the subject than the SNP
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Post by batman on Nov 5, 2024 15:04:15 GMT
I see there are defections in both directions in Tower Hamlets. Hard to keep up.
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Post by olympian95 on Nov 5, 2024 15:12:22 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 5, 2024 15:34:39 GMT
I see there are defections in both directions in Tower Hamlets. Hard to keep up. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
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Post by November_Rain on Nov 5, 2024 16:00:35 GMT
Is this due to the budget and the cuts to the pensioners heating allowance?
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Post by John Chanin on Nov 5, 2024 16:02:07 GMT
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Post by lackeroftalent on Nov 5, 2024 16:10:58 GMT
Surprised about Diana Blamire s I know her a little and she's hyper active online. Seems a very locally rooted true blue Tory. I wonder what's going on - another thread suggested there might be some selection shenanigans going on in Bucks. EDIT: she’s confirmed to me it‘s selection-related. All I can say is that the selected candidates must be very very strong if she‘s not made it. I thought it quite likely that we would see this sort of think in Buckinghamshire. Council is going from 147 to 97 councillors next year and currently has 111 Conservatives. Always likely we would see some fallings out over selections for 2025.
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Post by November_Rain on Nov 5, 2024 16:19:52 GMT
Surprised about Diana Blamire s I know her a little and she's hyper active online. Seems a very locally rooted true blue Tory. I wonder what's going on - another thread suggested there might be some selection shenanigans going on in Bucks. EDIT: she’s confirmed to me it‘s selection-related. All I can say is that the selected candidates must be very very strong if she‘s not made it. I thought it quite likely that we would see this sort of think in Buckinghamshire. Council is going from 147 to 97 councillors next year and currently has 111 Conservatives. Always likely we would see some fallings out over selections for 2025. How many local councillors for Buckinghamshire? Even 97 is too much imo.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 5, 2024 16:24:33 GMT
I thought it quite likely that we would see this sort of think in Buckinghamshire. Council is going from 147 to 97 councillors next year and currently has 111 Conservatives. Always likely we would see some fallings out over selections for 2025. How many local councillors for Buckinghamshire? Even 97 is too much imo. It was a messy compromise in the unitary-isation process. They took all the district wards a new county divisions pending a full review.
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Post by November_Rain on Nov 5, 2024 16:29:25 GMT
How many local councillors for Buckinghamshire? Even 97 is too much imo. It was a messy compromise in the unitary-isation process. They took all the district wards a new county divisions pending a full review. Thank you for that. Yes sounds it!! Weird.
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Post by ricmk on Nov 5, 2024 16:33:03 GMT
The unitary in Bucks is deeply unloved as far as I can see. I'm sure it saves money by having only one set of admin across the county but it's a deeply incoherent area whatever the county boundaries say, and I believe most of the development discussion is around the southern end thinking it should go in the north, and the Aylesbury Vale gang wanting it all in the south, and the Chilterns in the middle keeping both sides apart. About the only thing they agree on is moaning about HS2, and that every Buckinghamshire pensioner will freeze to death this winter. Very difficult for any strategic planning to take place. You might have noticed that MK is looking at being part of a combined authority with Bedfordshire and Northants. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjrdvy4ldydoThe fact we'd rather work with Northants than Bucks speaks volumes!
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 5, 2024 18:40:42 GMT
How many local councillors for Buckinghamshire? Even 97 is too much imo. It was a messy compromise in the unitary-isation process. They took all the district wards a new county divisions pending a full review. No they took all the county divisions as new unitray authority wards.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 5, 2024 18:45:32 GMT
The unitary in Bucks is deeply unloved as far as I can see. I'm sure it saves money by having only one set of admin across the county but it's a deeply incoherent area whatever the county boundaries say, and I believe most of the development discussion is around the southern end thinking it should go in the north, and the Aylesbury Vale gang wanting it all in the south, and the Chilterns in the middle keeping both sides apart. About the only thing they agree on is moaning about HS2, and that every Buckinghamshire pensioner will freeze to death this winter. Very difficult for any strategic planning to take place. You might have noticed that MK is looking at being part of a combined authority with Bedfordshire and Northants. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjrdvy4ldydoThe fact we'd rather work with Northants than Bucks speaks volumes! The correct way to unitarise Buckinghamshire is to merge Milton Keynes with the former Aylesbury Vale district to form a North Buckinghamshire with its administrative centre in Aylesbury and the three other districts, combined with Slough and that part of Windsor & Maidenhead North of the Thames, forming a South Buckinghamshire administered from High Wycombe. I'd be open to crossing the old district boundaries to include the area around Princes Risborough in North Bucks. You can also have the occupied zone of Chorleywood back.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Nov 5, 2024 18:57:15 GMT
The real problem is that successive governments have tried to get local authorities to play the role of regional government but with inadequate powers and on hopelessly wrong boundaries. Buckinghamshire as a Unitary Authority is all but useless in terms of providing regional government and far too large to provide local government.
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