General councillors and other notable defections

[Deleted]

Thank you for this Tony. I was somewhat surprised that he joined the Conservatives, although I know there is a fairly strong Tory vote in Walverden.

[tonygreaves]

The Tory vote in Walverden is almost all white, though there is a core of white Labour voters. The Asian voters (about 40%) are more promiscuous.

Tony

[AdminSTB]

I don't know if they have left the party as such, the news article just says they "set up a rival grouping". Didn't Aberdeen have two groups of Tory councillors for some time, both of which were still recognised as Conservative members?

[marksenior]

Two Conservative councillors on Norfolk CC to Independent over incinerator plans .

[independentukip]

Sept 27, 2013 15:57:46 GMT marksenior said:

Two Conservative councillors on Norfolk CC to Independent over incinerator plans .

Do you mean two Conservatives on King's Lynn and West Norfolk Borough Council have gone independent?

They being Paul Foster of West Winch and Michael Pitcher of Grimston. Neither are on Norfolk County Council.

www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/councillors_resign_over_incineration_claims_1_2819260

[marksenior]

Thanks for the correction . I misread the report

[marksenior]

Labour councillor for Totteridge ward on Wycombe BC Chauhdry Shafique has defected to the Conservatives

[The Bishop]

Wycombe. Again

[Deleted]

This is another ludicrous defection - these defections between extremes (I know, most parties are closer together than they used to be) seem to make a joke of ideology. When I lived in Rochdale, the defections between parties within the Pakistani community were a constant cause of bewilderment and it hasn't stopped. Look at the defection of Cllr Shah Wazir from Lib Dem to Tory and then, 'after reflection', to Labour. The reflection seemed to be that not enough of his community were willing to vote Tory.
I don't doubt that there are changes of heart but these seem somewhat daft. It is interesting to note that the younger generation among the Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities are not so easy to manipulate and this is a good thing..

[iainbhx]

Sept 30, 2013 13:48:54 GMT CatholicLeft said:

I don't doubt that there are changes of heart but these seem somewhat daft. It is interesting to note that the younger generation among the Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities are not so easy to manipulate and this is a good thing..

I agree, but that is why community elders like Postal Votes.

[Deleted]

I feel a "what to do about postal votes" thread coming on

[solihullratepayer]

Tadley UKIP councillor Stephen West resigns from the party just over a year after he defected from the Conservatives

[Tony Otim]

Sept 30, 2013 22:22:21 GMT solihullratepayer said:

Tadley UKIP councillor Stephen West resigns from the party just over a year after he defected from the Conservatives

For further detail, that Basingstoke & Deane BC. He was also UKIP candidate for Hampshire Police Commissioner last year and failed to get elected to the county council for UKIP this May.

[independentukip]

Mr West is still listed on the Council website as a UKIP Councillor.

The article linked provides some information on this matter.

www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/10709033.Tadley_UKIP_councillor_Stephen_West_denies_he_quit_the_party/

[Deleted]

Oct 1, 2013 22:09:26 GMT @fraser said:

Sept 22, 2013 12:24:58 GMT marksenior said:

Don't know the story behind this but 7 of the 15 Conservative councillors on Dumfries and Galloway council have left the Conservative group and set up a rival group . Perhaps one of our Scottish posters can explain .

Labour/SNP coalition now in control.

I'm always amazed when they manage to behave like grown ups..

[tonygreaves]

Sep 23, 2013 at 4:50pm
Quote Select PostDeselect PostLink to PostReport PostMember Send MessageGive GiftBack to Top Post by catholicleft on Sep 23, 2013 at 4:50pmHas anybody else picked this up already:

www.lancashiretelegraph


Read more: vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/1200/general-councillors-notables-defections?page=59#page=58#ixzz2gyjn65Ra

Slightly unusual follow-up to this defection. The claims by Pendle Labour leader Cllr M Iqbal have now hit the front page of the Lancashire Telegraph.

"Nelson councillor denies involvement in Pakistan murder"

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/10720212.Nelson_councillor_denies_involvement_in_Pakistan_murder/

An odd thing is that at the time of the death in Pakistan, Cllr Aziz was not only in Nelson fighting his election campaign as a Labour candidate, but his agent was Councllor Iqbal.

Tony Greaves

[Deleted]

Without commenting on the particular case, I assure you that we have many people serving life sentences who were not even close to the event of the murder for which they have been found guilty.

[Deleted]

I would also point out that joint enterprise is one of the most appallingly implemented parts of criminal law for which a person can end up serving long sentences with no solid evidence of guilt. I know this is not necessarily connected with my above post, but I felt the need to state it.

[mrhell]

He said: “I would question his decision to remain in this country whilst being wanted in Pakistan. He needs to be removed immediately from being a councillor and removed by the police to appear before the court.”

Let's ignore due process then. I'll imagine that the Labour group leader is upset by the defection but his attitude is ludicrous.

[erlend]

Oct 7, 2013 11:26:57 GMT CatholicLeft said:

I would also point out that joint enterprise is one of the most appallingly implemented parts of criminal law for which a person can end up serving long sentences with no solid evidence of guilt. I know this is not necessarily connected with my above post, but I felt the need to state it.

Is that the law as it was for the Bentley case?