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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 19:19:05 GMT
Nick Clegg wasn't -- and isn't -- a homophobic anti-abortion right-wing nutjob. Tim Farron is. Perhaps you need to talk this over with your good friend Tricky... Now that the general election is over, I am a little surprised by the continued absence of tricky, erlend, jamesdoyle etc. |
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Post by iainbhx on Jul 18, 2015 19:44:58 GMT
Given Farron's interview this morning, I will probably not be paying my membership again in January. However, I will still be supporting my local party.
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Post by davidevershed on Jul 18, 2015 23:36:58 GMT
Given Farron's interview this morning, I will probably not be paying my membership again in January. However, I will still be supporting my local party. Surely, ianbhx, you should base your party membership on the party policies, not on the views of one particular individual within it? |
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 19, 2015 0:31:59 GMT
Farron is an evangelical so his views are ypical of that religious stance.
I don't honestly feel I could vote for someone with those attitudes to lead my party.
However to his credit he has always said he doesn't want to impose his view on the population. Think his voting record on LGBT issues is too negative for comfort though.
he is clearly a left wing social liberal on non-moral/cultural matters though and economically he seems much more akin to Kennedy, I would imagine given his enthusiasm for the coalition and working with the Tories doktorb's preference is for Orange Book liberalism
Of course tricky who has always identified himself as an economic liberal and Orange Book man did vote for Farron.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 22, 2015 11:53:42 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 22, 2015 12:01:07 GMT
On Thurrock council, Colin Churchman (Stanford East and Corringham Town ward) has left the UK Independence Party group.
It seems the party which doesn't issue a whip to its councillors does actually issue a whip to them, in one area (planning) where it is specifically unlawful to do so.
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Post by Sharon on Jul 22, 2015 12:55:36 GMT
On Thurrock council, Colin Churchman (Stanford East and Corringham Town ward) has left the UK Independence Party group. It seems the party which doesn't issue a whip to its councillors does actually issue a whip to them, in one area (planning) where it is specifically unlawful to do so. The remaining UKIP cllrs there should be reported to their standards body. |
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 22, 2015 13:31:17 GMT
On Thurrock council, Colin Churchman (Stanford East and Corringham Town ward) has left the UK Independence Party group. It seems the party which doesn't issue a whip to its councillors does actually issue a whip to them, in one area (planning) where it is specifically unlawful to do so. The remaining UKIP cllrs there should be reported to their standards body. One would think it'd be difficult to prove unless that councillor has documentary evidence that he was told to vote in a certain way. I wouldn't be surprised if this was common in at least an unofficial way across the UKIP groups in the country. Vehemently anti-planning does seem to be one of the things that really binds them together from my experience. |
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Post by peterl on Jul 22, 2015 14:07:45 GMT
UKIP members generally do not favour the same level of development that some other parties do, and particularly are keen to preserve the green belt.
However, let's not forget here that
1. There is no firm evidence that a whip was even issued other than the assertion of one councillor who might well have been disgruntled for some other reason.
2. There is certainly no evidence that every other UKIP councillor on Thurrock Council, or even on the Planning Committee, did anything wrong. Even if there was documentary evidence that UKIP councillors were being told which way to vote on Planning, it would also need to be shown that they followed this directive.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 14:38:52 GMT
This news leaves me dumbfounded. Peter proved he could win against the odds as a Lib Dem and he always struck me as being Tory-leaning. On that basis, one has to take his explanation at face value as it is the only reason that makes any sort of sense. Weird though. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 22, 2015 17:24:03 GMT
There are some LibDems who don't differ a great deal from Labour. I'd imagine he got on well with the other Heywood councillors and felt he may as well be with them |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 18:24:59 GMT
There are some LibDems who don't differ a great deal from Labour. I'd imagine he got on well with the other Heywood councillors and felt he may as well be with them He certainly isn't somebody you would ever have described as Labour-leaning. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 23, 2015 9:26:13 GMT
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Post by peterl on Jul 23, 2015 13:56:07 GMT
Apparently it has to do with dissatisfaction at the split of committee seats. I'd imagine though that two groups would mean less seats if anything.
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 23, 2015 15:33:12 GMT
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Post by Dan on Jul 24, 2015 8:03:37 GMT
Terry White (male), Green Party parliamentary candidate, local branch co-ordinator, chair of West Midlands under 30s Greens, says the Green party is a tough place to be if you're male.  |
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Post by neilm on Jul 24, 2015 12:58:59 GMT
Terry White (male), Green Party parliamentary candidate, local branch co-ordinator, chair of West Midlands under 30s Greens, says the Green party is a tough place to be if you're male. I do not doubt him. Conservative Future was a tough place to be as a straight man. |
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Post by wallington on Jul 24, 2015 13:56:48 GMT
I met Terry on a few occasions. I'm really not that surprised that he's returned to the Liberal Democrats. He seemed a very ambitious young man and was frustrated by the local party in Rugby. It can be rather difficult at times to motivate members to take elections seriously, something I have experienced in my local branch. He never seemed to really fit in and his politics in general seemed a very mixed bag. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 24, 2015 14:05:34 GMT
Terry White (male), Green Party parliamentary candidate, local branch co-ordinator, chair of West Midlands under 30s Greens, says the Green party is a tough place to be if you're male. I do not doubt him. Conservative Future was a tough place to be as a straight man. Oh yes. I guess the City Queens might have replaced the Chelsea knitwear ones given your age? |
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Post by neilm on Jul 24, 2015 14:21:37 GMT
I do not doubt him. Conservative Future was a tough place to be as a straight man. Oh yes. I guess the City Queens might have replaced the Chelsea knitwear ones given your age? Very much so! |
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