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Post by catking on Aug 21, 2018 11:38:36 GMT
Where did that name come from? Part of the habit of upper-class families where people have family names that are unrelated to their legal one. Hence Tony Benn = Jimmy within the family.
Posh people are weird.
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Post by slon on Aug 21, 2018 13:01:06 GMT
Manny Shinwell, like the majority of the Independent Labour Party and Trade Unionists was a supporter of Mosley, and he has indicated that Mosley would have had a good chance of leading the party into the 1945 Election had he not resigned from the NEC and Labour. Wonder how things would have went if Mosely had been Elected as a radical left wing leader of the UK. The version of events usually regarded as the truth is somewhat different to this: 1936 Perth: Confrontation between members of the British Union of Fascists (BUF – Oswald Mosley’s Black-shirts) and thousands of people opposed to them The anti-fascist groups comprised members of the Labour Party, Independent Labour Party, Liberal Party, Trade Unions and other individuals. Amongst the speakers at this gathering called by the Perth Trades and Industrial Council was a young Manny Shinwell, then a councillor in Hamilton.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 21, 2018 13:31:43 GMT
Manny Shinwell was a Labour MP from 1922, and in 1936 he was in his early 50s.
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Post by jimboo2017 on Aug 21, 2018 14:40:36 GMT
Manny Shinwell, like the majority of the Independent Labour Party and Trade Unionists was a supporter of Mosley, and he has indicated that Mosley would have had a good chance of leading the party into the 1945 Election had he not resigned from the NEC and Labour. Wonder how things would have went if Mosely had been Elected as a radical left wing leader of the UK. The version of events usually regarded as the truth is somewhat different to this: 1936 Perth: Confrontation between members of the British Union of Fascists (BUF – Oswald Mosley’s Black-shirts) and thousands of people opposed to them The anti-fascist groups comprised members of the Labour Party, Independent Labour Party, Liberal Party, Trade Unions and other individuals. Amongst the speakers at this gathering called by the Perth Trades and Industrial Council was a young Manny Shinwell, then a councillor in Hamilton.
Remember at the time Shinwell supported Mosley Mosely was the Left's dream boy, like Benn and Corbyn, During this period and until her death Mosely's wife was in communication with the likes of Trotsky |
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Post by slon on Aug 21, 2018 14:56:43 GMT
I see where this rubbish is coming from .... something called the europeanaction.com
Site promoting European unity in place of the EU. Based on the ideas of Oswald Mosley and his policy of Europe a Nation after the war
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Post by jimboo2017 on Aug 21, 2018 14:59:04 GMT
I see where this rubbish is coming from .... something called the europeanaction.com Site promoting European unity in place of the EU. Based on the ideas of Oswald Mosley and his policy of Europe a Nation after the war I'm reading Shinwell at the moment, do not have a clue what you are on about |
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Post by slon on Aug 21, 2018 15:41:22 GMT
I see where this rubbish is coming from .... something called the europeanaction.com Site promoting European unity in place of the EU. Based on the ideas of Oswald Mosley and his policy of Europe a Nation after the war I'm reading Shinwell at the moment, do not have a clue what you are on about crap like this |
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Post by jimboo2017 on Aug 21, 2018 16:09:59 GMT
I'm reading Shinwell at the moment, do not have a clue what you are on about crap like this oops, saw that for the first time last night |
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Aug 24, 2018 10:28:40 GMT
Such a government would presumably have been the polar opposite of the actual Attlee government, in the sense that it would have had a dominating leader surrounded by uncolourful senior cabinet ministers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 10:30:09 GMT
The version of events usually regarded as the truth is somewhat different to this: 1936 Perth: Confrontation between members of the British Union of Fascists (BUF – Oswald Mosley’s Black-shirts) and thousands of people opposed to them The anti-fascist groups comprised members of the Labour Party, Independent Labour Party, Liberal Party, Trade Unions and other individuals. Amongst the speakers at this gathering called by the Perth Trades and Industrial Council was a young Manny Shinwell, then a councillor in Hamilton.
Remember at the time Shinwell supported Mosley Mosely was the Left's dream boy, like Benn and Corbyn, During this period and until her death Mosely's wife was in communication with the likes of Trotsky wasn't Mosley a Tory before he crossed the floor |
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Post by jimboo2017 on Aug 24, 2018 13:55:21 GMT
Remember at the time Shinwell supported Mosley Mosely was the Left's dream boy, like Benn and Corbyn, During this period and until her death Mosely's wife was in communication with the likes of Trotsky wasn't Mosley a Tory before he crossed the floor yup, no party was big enough to contain him, Mosely attacked the use of Black and Tans |
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Post by greenchristian on Aug 24, 2018 17:36:01 GMT
Remember at the time Shinwell supported Mosley Mosely was the Left's dream boy, like Benn and Corbyn, During this period and until her death Mosely's wife was in communication with the likes of Trotsky wasn't Mosley a Tory before he crossed the floor Yep. He began political life as a Tory, spent some time as an independent who was mostly aligned with the Asquithian Liberals, before joining Labour, becoming a junior minister, and then leaving to form his own party, In his early political life he went through a variety of different political viewpoints. |
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