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Post by rcronald on Apr 27, 2022 18:19:54 GMT
NY Court of Appeals has struck down the congressional and senate maps.
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Post by timmullen1 on Apr 27, 2022 20:14:01 GMT
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Post by aargauer on Apr 28, 2022 2:19:47 GMT
To be fair to the Republicans, that map looks better that the one it replaced - and with the democrats having concentrated support in the Miami area a fair map would be Republican dominated. Just look at the existing gerrymandering to get the democrats a seat in north Florida - tell me the new boundaries aren't better.
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Post by timmullen1 on Apr 28, 2022 2:27:02 GMT
To be fair to the Republicans, that map looks better that the one it replaced - and with the democrats having concentrated support in the Miami area a fair map would be Republican dominated. Just look at the existing gerrymandering to get the democrats a seat in north Florida - tell me the new boundaries aren't better. If you read, objectively, Kondiik’s analysis, you would understand how ridiculous your statement is. In no universe is a map in a 1-2% State that gives one Party a 20-8 seat majority fair, or, if the courts did their job, legal.
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Post by aargauer on Apr 28, 2022 2:50:54 GMT
To be fair to the Republicans, that map looks better that the one it replaced - and with the democrats having concentrated support in the Miami area a fair map would be Republican dominated. Just look at the existing gerrymandering to get the democrats a seat in north Florida - tell me the new boundaries aren't better. If you read, objectively, Kondiik’s analysis, you would understand how ridiculous your statement is. In no universe is a map in a 1-2% State that gives one Party a 20-8 seat majority fair, or, if the courts did their job, legal. 18-10 on the close 2018 gubernatorial election. 2020 wasn't a 1-2% margin. I'm not saying there is no gerrymandering - this is the US after all - but given concentration of D vote that isn't horrific. It's not Maryland. The map doesn't immediately look horrendous. I suspect if a neutral map were drawn by an electoral commission it'd be 16-12 or 17-11 on 2018. Florida has a fair districts act - so some in central Florida (to be Frank the bit I'm least familiar), might get challenged. South and north look fine to me. Tell me with a straight face FL-5 going doesn't make northern Florida better?
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Post by timmullen1 on Apr 28, 2022 3:10:56 GMT
I'm not saying there is no gerrymandering - this is the US after all - but given concentration of D vote that isn't horrific. It's not Maryland. The map doesn't immediately look horrendous. I suspect if a neutral map were drawn by an electoral commission it'd be 16-12 or 17-11 on 2018. Fair enough, but a 4-6 seat spread is a damn site more reflective of the partisan nature of the State (+3.36% R in the 2020 Presidential ) than a 12 seat spread.
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Post by rcronald on Apr 28, 2022 16:55:37 GMT
This is genuinely alarming.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2022 17:58:51 GMT
Oregon's Kate Brown (D) is America's most disapproved of governor - 54% Disapprove and 41% Approve
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Post by rcronald on Apr 28, 2022 19:01:13 GMT
Oregon's Kate Brown (D) is America's most disapproved of governor - 54% Disapprove and 41% Approve Not a surprise, she literally abolished proficiency requirements in education and her handling of the riots were not the best….
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Post by rcronald on May 3, 2022 13:37:04 GMT
Biden+1 district that should become redder after redistricting
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Post by rcronald on May 4, 2022 0:45:37 GMT
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on May 4, 2022 3:12:55 GMT
Vance is an interesting character, but his campaign was one of the most flagrantly cynical I've ever seen.
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Post by timmullen1 on May 4, 2022 3:21:35 GMT
Shontel Brown again defeats Bernie Sanders surrogate Nina Tucker in the newly configured 11th District. I wonder if tonight’s seen the end of two political careers with Mandel’s defeat in the GOP Senate primary combined with Tucker’s fairly sizeable defeat.
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Post by rcronald on May 4, 2022 5:09:07 GMT
Shontel Brown again defeats Bernie Sanders surrogate Nina Tucker in the newly configured 11th District. I wonder if tonight’s seen the end of two political careers with Mandel’s defeat in the GOP Senate primary combined with Tucker’s fairly sizeable defeat. Nina Turner had a meltdown, Mandel would probably run for Congress after David Joyce retires.
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Post by relique on May 4, 2022 5:14:09 GMT
Isn't that what normal people call a run-off election? Like wot France is in the middle of.
Not like France at all (or Texas, Georgia and a few other American States) as there’s no guarantee of a two Party run-off, and in France only one candidate per Party can enter the first round. Have you been following french politics at any time for the last hundred and fifty years ? 'Cause there's no such rule of one candidate per party. There's plenty of races (including presidential) with two candidates from the same party. The only difference is that we are a democratic system and we have more than two parties. Not just one more than China
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on May 5, 2022 1:28:48 GMT
Controversial Congressman Madison Cawthorn who has been detained for trying to take a loaded gun through an airport, been accused of insider trading, been videoed coming onto his male aide, been pictured in female underwear, has a history of making deeply homophobic comments and has accused the Republicans in Congress of engaging in cocaine fuelled orgies, has now been videoed naked and in bed with his male cousin and making some sexually suggestive moves with his penis towards his cousin's face. The primary is on the 17th May, my birthday, and hopefully the beginning of the end of this mad career in politics.
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Post by rcronald on May 5, 2022 5:11:06 GMT
Controversial Congressman Madison Cawthorn who has been detained for trying to take a loaded gun through an airport, been accused of insider trading, been videoed coming onto his male aide, been pictured in female underwear, has a history of making deeply homophobic comments and has accused the Republicans in Congress of engaging in cocaine fuelled orgies, has now been videoed naked and in bed with his male cousin and making some sexually suggestive moves with his penis towards his cousin's face. The primary is on the 17th May, my birthday, and hopefully the beginning of the end of this mad career in politics.
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Post by carlton43 on May 5, 2022 8:22:13 GMT
Controversial Congressman Madison Cawthorn who has been detained for trying to take a loaded gun through an airport, been accused of insider trading, been videoed coming onto his male aide, been pictured in female underwear, has a history of making deeply homophobic comments and has accused the Republicans in Congress of engaging in cocaine fuelled orgies, has now been videoed naked and in bed with his male cousin and making some sexually suggestive moves with his penis towards his cousin's face. The primary is on the 17th May, my birthday, and hopefully the beginning of the end of this mad career in politics. Those are not quotes from a published source nor lifted from a published speech. You are asserting them to be true. I do hope you 'know' and are indisputably certain of those 'facts' .......... ?
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Post by finsobruce on May 5, 2022 8:40:20 GMT
Controversial Congressman Madison Cawthorn who has been detained for trying to take a loaded gun through an airport, been accused of insider trading, been videoed coming onto his male aide, been pictured in female underwear, has a history of making deeply homophobic comments and has accused the Republicans in Congress of engaging in cocaine fuelled orgies, has now been videoed naked and in bed with his male cousin and making some sexually suggestive moves with his penis towards his cousin's face. The primary is on the 17th May, my birthday, and hopefully the beginning of the end of this mad career in politics. Those are not quotes from a published source nor lifted from a published speech. You are asserting them to be true. I do hope you 'know' and are indisputably certain of those 'facts' .......... ? Well... there are one or two things going on in his life at the moment. For most politicians being stopped twice by police for driving without a licence would be the most notable but not here. He blames the left but I suspect that his rivals in the Republican primary may not be ignorant of all the stories, shall we say.
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Post by carlton43 on May 5, 2022 8:45:24 GMT
Those are not quotes from a published source nor lifted from a published speech. You are asserting them to be true. I do hope you 'know' and are indisputably certain of those 'facts' .......... ? Well... there are one or two things going on in his life at the moment. For most politicians being stopped twice by police for driving without a licence would be the most notable but not here. He blames the left but I suspect that his rivals in the Republican primary may not be ignorant of all the stories, shall we say.
I really don't care at all but feel we should all avoid the potential for libel. There is no way any of us can 'know' any of this to be true and so should confine ourselves to direct quotes of previously published material.
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