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Post by Richard Cromwell on Sept 14, 2021 22:18:11 GMT
Laugh or cry, et cetera:
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Post by matureleft on Sept 15, 2021 7:35:01 GMT
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 15, 2021 7:40:18 GMT
It's no great surprise but the CNN write up is faintly ludicrous. Since when was California ever going to vote enthusiastically for a Trumpist message? It simply indicates continued American polarization. It would be more interesting to see what might happen in say Texas, or Florida.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 15, 2021 7:51:45 GMT
Yeah. That mask isn't covering his nose.
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 15, 2021 8:07:15 GMT
The Associated Press called the California recall for the No campaign at about 4.30am; at typing with 67% reporting No is ahead 64.4-35.6%.
Also, going right back to the start of this thread, Dennis Kucinich has conceded defeat, finishing third in the Democratic primary for Mayor of Cleveland.
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Post by stb12 on Sept 15, 2021 9:32:15 GMT
Even states that are solid for one party can produce surprises against the President’s party mid-term as it can come down to turn out and enthusiasm as well as sometimes unusual circumstances. See Republicans winning a Massachusetts senate special election in 2010, Democrats doing it in Alabama in 2017.
By the looks of it here the Democrat base woke up in time probably helped by Larry Elder’s momentum
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 15, 2021 10:33:17 GMT
The pro-recall campaign genuinely thought they had a chance just weeks ago. This is a major, and highly welcome, defeat for Trumpism.
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 15, 2021 10:53:00 GMT
The pro-recall campaign genuinely thought they had a chance just weeks ago. This is a major, and highly welcome, defeat for Trumpism. I suspect it was a case of that summer poll showing the recall winning, accompanied by a couple of others that were borderline margin of error, were enough to shake a significant portion of the Democratic base out of their “this is a foregone conclusion” complacency. Equally in the gap between submitting the petition signatures and voting California’s been able to get its vaccination programme up and running pretty smoothly thereby allowing Newsom to ease restrictions, particularly reopening schools, nullifying the anti lockdown purpose of the recall. Elder’s emergence hurt the Republicans as it did become more about rejecting Trumpism than the more credible alternative political positions of people like Faulconer. Equally Elder was a poor flag bearer for the MAGA’s, even telling the Sacramento Bee newspaper that he supported mask mandates, before changing his mind six hours later.
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Post by stb12 on Sept 15, 2021 12:03:33 GMT
The pro-recall campaign genuinely thought they had a chance just weeks ago. This is a major, and highly welcome, defeat for Trumpism. It is but Democrats will equally have to avoid being carried away by it, there’s much tougher battles ahead in key Senate and House seats that are very different from a statewide recall in California.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 12:23:11 GMT
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 16, 2021 12:28:55 GMT
Updated numbers are 82% reporting, 477,498 (52.6%) retain, 429,480 (47.4%) recall.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 16, 2021 12:49:32 GMT
Easy to forget that Orange County still has some very conservative voters and was at one time impregnably Republican. This is still a vote for retaining Newsom.
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Post by jimboo2017 on Sept 16, 2021 13:25:24 GMT
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Post by stb12 on Sept 16, 2021 14:11:17 GMT
Even people who would usually vote for a Republican nominee in a normal election might not have been so keen on the whole recall process
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 20:58:35 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Sept 19, 2021 22:42:24 GMT
Be very afraid, tables of Texas.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 20, 2021 15:19:06 GMT
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Post by Richard Allen on Sept 24, 2021 13:19:27 GMT
He will 89 on election day but Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA) is running for re-election.
Grassley was first elected to the Iowa House of Representatives in 1958 and so if he were to be re-elected and serve another full term he would have served 70 years* in public office (16 years Iowa House, 6 years US House, 48 years US Senate).
* Strictly speaking he would be 9 days short as his as he didn't take office until January 12th 1959 and his potential 8th term in the US Senate would end 3rd January 2029.
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Post by timrollpickering on Sept 24, 2021 13:36:02 GMT
I assume he had some gaps when transferring or did he have favourable laws that meant he autovacated one office the second he took up another?
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