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Post by yellowperil on Mar 14, 2018 15:10:52 GMT
What is the difficulty exactly about delivering A5 leaflets in scattered areas? If they were A1 or A0 I could understand the problem more Yes that would be a different sort of problem! But I would say if you are going to walk half a mile just to put one thing through somebody's letterbox (and I've had years of doing that sort of thing), you feel it would be nice to give them something big enough to be noticed and be worth reading. On the other hand a good A5 is still better than a weak A4- or A3 for that matter. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 14, 2018 17:59:44 GMT
What is the difficulty exactly about delivering A5 leaflets in scattered areas? If they were A1 or A0 I could understand the problem more The delivery isn't the issue. Persuading volunteers that it's worthwhile might be ... |
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Post by AdminSTB on Mar 14, 2018 20:13:20 GMT
What is the difficulty exactly about delivering A5 leaflets in scattered areas? If they were A1 or A0 I could understand the problem more The delivery isn't the issue. Persuading volunteers that it's worthwhile might be ... Well, my Director was "canvassed" by the LibDems last weekend in Bunbury. Best of all, he's promised to vote for us. It might just have been a chat with the deliverer rather than a proper canvas. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 14, 2018 20:16:30 GMT
The delivery isn't the issue. Persuading volunteers that it's worthwhile might be ... Well, my Director was "canvassed" by the LibDems last weekend in Bunbury. Best of all, he's promised to vote for us. It might just have been a chat with the deliverer rather than a proper canvas. There has definitely been some canvassing undertaken, and leafleters are being encouraged to chat. So it could have been either. I know of one village which has been canvassed, possibly for the first time in human history.  |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Mar 14, 2018 21:29:40 GMT
What is the difficulty exactly about delivering A5 leaflets in scattered areas? If they were A1 or A0 I could understand the problem more The delivery isn't the issue. Persuading volunteers that it's worthwhile might be ... It's also significantly more difficult to get an A5 cleanly through a letterbox than an A4, because it doesn't fold as well. |
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Post by johnloony on Mar 15, 2018 2:07:46 GMT
What is the difficulty exactly about delivering A5 leaflets in scattered areas? If they were A1 or A0 I could understand the problem more In my first ever election as a candidate, I started with A5 leaflets, but quickly discovered that they were awkward for getting through letterboxes. Thereafter I always used A6 (which are the size of a hand) or A4 (folded into third) which are much easier. |
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 15, 2018 11:46:29 GMT
My vote would always be for A4 folded to thirds, room enough to say something without getting turgid, good size for pics, and enough body to attack all but the most recalcitrant letterboxes. And of course in yellow.
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Post by Tony Otim on Mar 15, 2018 12:58:22 GMT
The delivery isn't the issue. Persuading volunteers that it's worthwhile might be ... It's also significantly more difficult to get an A5 cleanly through a letterbox than an A4, because it doesn't fold as well. Surely paper quality is also an issue. I found that decent quality A5 will go through letter boxes much easier than poorer quality larger sizes, however it's folded. |
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 16, 2018 19:34:55 GMT
Well of course paper quality is significant but if you are going to invest in good quality paper you might as well put something worthwhile on it.
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 17, 2018 9:25:11 GMT
<iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_40106551" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 926px; top: -154px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_57228139" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -14px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_4974673" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 926px; top: -14px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_75947351" scrolling="no"></iframe> Yes I didn't include that result in my summary because of the very substantial boundary change that followed that (interesting that in itself, maybe), but it was a fascinating result in itself -does anyone know whether it was a genuine one vote majority because sometimes that can indicate a dead heat decided by drawing lots? This had been a very strong Lib Dem area just before the coalition meltdown, with councillors with national reputations like Alan Sherwell who in those years was Chair of Conference. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Mar 17, 2018 16:14:09 GMT
<iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_40106551" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 926px; top: -154px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_57228139" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -14px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_4974673" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 926px; top: -14px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_75947351" scrolling="no"></iframe> Yes I didn't include that result in my summary because of the very substantial boundary change that followed that (interesting that in itself, maybe), but it was a fascinating result in itself -does anyone know whether it was a genuine one vote majority because sometimes that can indicate a dead heat decided by drawing lots? This had been a very strong Lib Dem area just before the coalition meltdown, with councillors with national reputations like Alan Sherwell who in those years was Chair of Conference. One vote majorities are always fascinating, but I agree that there should be some indication of whether they are real one vote majorities or resulting from the drawing of lots. It's impossible to tell just from looking at the result. It would be an easy problem to solve — everyone could agree to use an asterisk or dagger for example to indicate it was originally a tie. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 17, 2018 16:22:28 GMT
<iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_40106551" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 926px; top: -154px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_57228139" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -14px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_4974673" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.720000000000027" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 19.72px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 926px; top: -14px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_75947351" scrolling="no"></iframe> Yes I didn't include that result in my summary because of the very substantial boundary change that followed that (interesting that in itself, maybe), but it was a fascinating result in itself -does anyone know whether it was a genuine one vote majority because sometimes that can indicate a dead heat decided by drawing lots? This had been a very strong Lib Dem area just before the coalition meltdown, with councillors with national reputations like Alan Sherwell who in those years was Chair of Conference. One vote majorities are always fascinating, but I agree that there should be some indication of whether they are real one vote majorities or resulting from the drawing of lots. It's impossible to tell just from looking at the result. It would be an easy problem to solve — everyone could agree to use an asterisk or dagger for example to indicate it was originally a tie. Looking at Andrews results page from 2006 in St Albans when I knew such a situation arose, he has recorded the votes for the Lib Dem candidate and the Conservative candidate both as 1132 and then indicated that the Lib Dem was elected by lots so it's probably safe to assume that where he hasn't done this it was a 'genuine' one vote lead www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2006/231/ |
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Post by mattb on Mar 17, 2018 16:46:12 GMT
One vote majorities are always fascinating, but I agree that there should be some indication of whether they are real one vote majorities or resulting from the drawing of lots. It's impossible to tell just from looking at the result. It would be an easy problem to solve — everyone could agree to use an asterisk or dagger for example to indicate it was originally a tie. Looking at Andrews results page from 2006 in St Albans when I knew such a situation arose, he has recorded the votes for the Lib Dem candidate and the Conservative candidate both as 1132 and then indicated that the Lib Dem was elected by lots so it's probably safe to assume that where he hasn't done this it was a 'genuine' one vote lead www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2006/231/On the other hand, when it happened in Three Rivers in 2012, it shows as a simple 1-vote majority. I guess it just depends whether or not he has the relevant info. www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2012/233/ |
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 17, 2018 16:59:43 GMT
From The Bucks Herald of 9 May 2011
“And proving that every vote counts, Conservative Barbara Russel toppled Liberal Democrat Graham Webster, currently mayor of Aylesbury, with a majority of just one.
She polled 307 to Mr Webster’s 306 in the Aylesbury Central ward.”
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 17, 2018 17:09:14 GMT
Looking at Andrews results page from 2006 in St Albans when I knew such a situation arose, he has recorded the votes for the Lib Dem candidate and the Conservative candidate both as 1132 and then indicated that the Lib Dem was elected by lots so it's probably safe to assume that where he hasn't done this it was a 'genuine' one vote lead www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2006/231/On the other hand, when it happened in Three Rivers in 2012, it shows as a simple 1-vote majority. I guess it just depends whether or not he has the relevant info. www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2012/233/Interesting. Perhaps Andrew heard about it as there was some coverage of the Wheathampstead situation - possibly the Lib Dems won a majority on the council as a consequence. I clearly remembered that one although it was a few years before I lived in the borough myself yet I had no recollection of the far more recent result you just drew my attention to in Carpenders Park! |
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Post by andrewteale on Mar 19, 2018 14:47:52 GMT
Interesting. Perhaps Andrew heard about it as there was some coverage of the Wheathampstead situation - possibly the Lib Dems won a majority on the council as a consequence. I clearly remembered that one although it was a few years before I lived in the borough myself yet I had no recollection of the far more recent result you just drew my attention to in Carpenders Park! The St Albans website at the time gave the Wheathampstead 2006 result as Ward: WHEATHAMPSTEAD PATRICK, GILLIAN KATHRYN GREEN PARTY 115 - SHARDLOW, JUDITH CLAIRE LIBERAL DEMOCRAT 1132 E BY LOT STAMMERS, KEITH CONSERVATIVE 1132 - WOODHAMS, PETER LESLIE LABOUR 94 - Electorate 4594 % Turnout 54.07 It may well have been covered on the old forum at the time, of course. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 20, 2018 20:57:46 GMT
CITY OF LONDON Bishopsgate Shravan Jashvantrai Joshi (Independent) 72 Patrick Thomas Streeter (Independent) 57 Joanna Abeyie (Independent) 24 Adedamola Aminu (Labour Party) 20  |
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Post by greenhert on Mar 20, 2018 21:34:19 GMT
Ah yes, John Barradell, Ward Clerk-the same John Barradell who was Returning Officer for Brighton Pavilion in 2010 when Caroline Lucas became the first Green Party MP in the UK.
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Post by Andrew_S on Mar 21, 2018 1:54:58 GMT
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Post by maxque on Mar 21, 2018 2:04:13 GMT
Pandering to UKIP voters. This will probably gain him votes. This is Thurrock, after all.
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