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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 23:19:08 GMT
Playing devil's advocate you could argue that Sheffield Attercliffe is a poor name too as Attercliffe itself is on the fringe of the constituency and was depopulated by slum clearance to the extent that hardly anyone lives there. However, that had been the case since the 1970s, people had become used to the name, and it was very much the successor to the old Attercliffe constituency. Also I wouldn't call Darnall ward south-east Sheffield. I doubt it'll be changed back; the BCE seem determined to inflict compass points on us. I wish they’d get rid of names like Edinburgh South West though. Edinburgh, Pentlands was made famous by Malcolm Rifkind before the BC changed the name. At least Eastwood was renamed East Renfrewshire. Strathkelvin & Bearsden was another one that was changed back. It’d be good if more of the 1983 names were done away with - I don’t like Broxtowe and Gedling much. I agree about compass points but i'm not sure Edinburgh, Pentlands would really describe the current constituency all that well. I actually prefer some of the 1983 names to the current ones, I agree about Eastwood but I much prefer Kincardine and Deeside to West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine for example. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 23:22:53 GMT
I wish they’d get rid of names like Edinburgh South West though. Edinburgh, Pentlands was made famous by Malcolm Rifkind before the BC changed the name. At least Eastwood was renamed East Renfrewshire. Strathkelvin & Bearsden was another one that was changed back. It’d be good if more of the 1983 names were done away with - I don’t like Broxtowe and Gedling much. I agree about compass points but i'm not sure Edinburgh, Pentlands would really describe the current constituency all that well. I actually prefer some of the 1983 names to the current ones, I agree about Eastwood but I much prefer Kincardine and Deeside to West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine for example. Isn't it named for the Pentland hills? Pendle is named after a hill also. Kincardine & Deeside is okay - Banff & Buchan and Gordon work fine. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 23:26:42 GMT
I agree about compass points but i'm not sure Edinburgh, Pentlands would really describe the current constituency all that well. I actually prefer some of the 1983 names to the current ones, I agree about Eastwood but I much prefer Kincardine and Deeside to West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine for example. Isn't it named for the Pentland hills? Pendle is named after a hill also. Kincardine & Deeside is okay - Banff & Buchan and Gordon work fine. I believe so, but Edinburgh South West takes in parts of the old Edinburgh Central constituency so it's a lot more urban than the old Pentlands constituency. On the topic of abhorrent names, Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey has to rank among the worst. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 23:59:48 GMT
Isn't it named for the Pentland hills? Pendle is named after a hill also. Kincardine & Deeside is okay - Banff & Buchan and Gordon work fine. I believe so, but Edinburgh South West takes in parts of the old Edinburgh Central constituency so it's a lot more urban than the old Pentlands constituency. On the topic of abhorrent names, Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey has to rank among the worst. If the name didn’t already reflect any major population centres within the seat I don’t see the issue in calling it Edinburgh Pentlands. But yes. That seat should be called Inverness & Nairn or just simply Inverness. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 0:09:51 GMT
I believe so, but Edinburgh South West takes in parts of the old Edinburgh Central constituency so it's a lot more urban than the old Pentlands constituency. On the topic of abhorrent names, Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey has to rank among the worst. If the name didn’t already reflect any major population centres within the seat I don’t see the issue in calling it Edinburgh Pentlands. But yes. That seat should be called Inverness & Nairn or just simply Inverness. That's a fair point, it certainly wouldn't be any worse than names like "Eastwood" which really didn't describe the whole constituency very well. I would probably just call INBS Inverness since prior to 1983 there had been an Inverness constituency since 1918. |
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Post by YL on Mar 13, 2018 6:42:50 GMT
I am pretty sure that just calling it "Inverness" would provoke the waving of pitchforks, and it wouldn't describe the constituency very well. Personally I would call it Inverness, Nairn & Strathspey, but as can be seen I'm not as bothered by long names as some here.
More on topic for this thread, when I first discovered that there was a constituency called Elmet (now of course Elmet & Rothwell) the first thing that came to mind was Sherburn in Elmet, but it isn't in fact in the constituency, and never has been. It doesn't seem very clear just what the borders of the kingdom of Elmet actually were.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 13, 2018 7:57:03 GMT
Barwick in Elmet is roughly in the centre of the constituency
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 9:08:06 GMT
I like Elmet as a constituency name.
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Post by therealriga on Mar 13, 2018 11:48:07 GMT
Whiston features in a constituency name because it isn't in the Borough of St Helens. So what? We don't have "Wolverhampton South East & Coseley East." "Stoke-On-Trent North & Kidsgrove." "Belfast East & Dundonald." "East Londonderry & Portrush" "Dundee East & Carnoustie" etc You don't have to have every single suburb named in constituency titles. Unfortunately, many are (Hull west and Hessle) and much of the time it's because the residents get uppity if they aren't included in the constituency name, when usually a more succinct name would be better. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 13, 2018 11:53:43 GMT
Barwick in Elmet is roughly in the centre of the constituency This is the Barwick of "Barwick Green", theme tune to The Archers. I don't know where Borsetshire is precisely supposed to be, though south Worcestershire is the usual suspect. I doubt very much whether the West Riding has much to do with it. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 13, 2018 11:54:24 GMT
I draw your attention to Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch & Strathspey Also Berwickshire, Roxburgh & Selkirk and Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale & Tweeddale. Dumfriesshire was a constituency for 297 years! Yep, though I do have a soft spot for Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley. No clue why. These all sound like the names of historic railway companies. |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Mar 13, 2018 11:58:52 GMT
Yep, though I do have a soft spot for Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley. No clue why. These all sound like the names of historic railway companies. There should be a constituency called Merioneth and Llantisilly. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 12:37:04 GMT
Constituency names in this country are too short.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 13, 2018 12:38:49 GMT
Constituency names in this country are too long.
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Post by beastofbedfordshire on Mar 13, 2018 12:40:32 GMT
Constituency names in this country are just right.
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Post by John Chanin on Mar 13, 2018 13:00:30 GMT
Constituency names in this country are just right. Spoken like a true conservative.... |
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Post by therealriga on Mar 13, 2018 16:18:53 GMT
Constituency names in this country are too short. Dunno. Not sure I'd like something like "Brandenburg an der Havel – Potsdam-Mittelmark I – Havelland III – Teltow-Fläming I" |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 16:26:30 GMT
I am pretty sure that just calling it "Inverness" would provoke the waving of pitchforks, and it wouldn't describe the constituency very well. Personally I would call it Inverness, Nairn & Strathspey, but as can be seen I'm not as bothered by long names as some here. More on topic for this thread, when I first discovered that there was a constituency called Elmet (now of course Elmet & Rothwell) the first thing that came to mind was Sherburn in Elmet, but it isn't in fact in the constituency, and never has been. It doesn't seem very clear just what the borders of the kingdom of Elmet actually were. There are plenty of similarly named constituencies which never provoked outrage, the geographical majority of the Stirling constituency is within the traditional county of Perthshire for instance, so I don't see a problem with "Inverness". At most I would call it "Inverness & Nairn", since Badenoch & Strathspey are both in Inverness-Shire anyway. |
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Post by An Sionnach Flannbhuí on Mar 13, 2018 21:11:05 GMT
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Post by Khunanup on Mar 14, 2018 12:57:38 GMT
Whiston features in a constituency name because it isn't in the Borough of St Helens. So what? We don't have "Wolverhampton South East & Coseley East." "Stoke-On-Trent North & Kidsgrove." "Belfast East & Dundonald." "East Londonderry & Portrush" "Dundee East & Carnoustie" etc You don't have to have every single suburb named in constituency titles. Unfortunately, many are (Hull west and Hessle) and much of the time it's because the residents get uppity if they aren't included in the constituency name, when usually a more succinct name would be better. We should though. The constituency name should mean something to the people that live there and reflect it's communities. Take for example the proposed Portsmouth North in the boundary review. It should be called Portsmouth North and Purbrook because it would include the Purbrook area of Waterlooville. When it is one big community with a smaller one tacked on from outwith the council area in particular, that other community should be acknowledged in the constituency name. |
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