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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 23, 2017 10:29:37 GMT
The only news on Yscir is a facebook update from the Community Council there which says:
"Following a 62% turnout congratulations to Iain McIntosh who was elected as Yscir County Councillor with 165 votes. Chris Davies came second and Kate Heneghan,third. Thanks to all the candidates for their interest and enthusiasm for supporting Yscir."
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Post by Robert Waller on Jun 23, 2017 10:40:22 GMT
That would be a Conservative gain from Independent, then.
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Jun 23, 2017 10:45:18 GMT
"Bing, Bong, Bing: We would like to apologise for the late arrival of the announcement of the Yscir by-election, this is due to circumstances that people in Mid Wales have to deal with all the time, Thank you!"
In other words, welcome to my world about Welsh local election results. The councils (especially in Mid Wales) are terrible when it comes to telling people what the results are and it almost makes me wonder if they don't want people to know the composition of their council.
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Post by listener on Jun 23, 2017 11:15:59 GMT
The Yscir result has been posted amidst the May 2017 county council election results for Brecknockshire
Iain McIntosh (Con) - 165
Chris Davies (Independent) - 144
Kate Heneghan (PC) - 101
Bethan Irwin (Green) - 80
Daniel Evans (Independent) - 62
Steve Davies (Independent) - 2
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 23, 2017 11:22:07 GMT
The Yscir result has been posted amidst the May 2017 county council election results for Brecknockshire Iain McIntosh (Con) - 165 Chris Davies (Independent) - 144 Kate Heneghan (PC) - 101 Bethan Irwin (Green) - 80 Daniel Evans (Independent) - 62 Steve Davies (Independent) - 2 2 votes. Interesting. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jun 23, 2017 11:56:45 GMT
The Yscir result has been posted amidst the May 2017 county council election results for Brecknockshire Iain McIntosh (Con) - 165 Chris Davies (Independent) - 144 Kate Heneghan (PC) - 101 Bethan Irwin (Green) - 80 Daniel Evans (Independent) - 62 Steve Davies (Independent) - 2 2 votes. Ouch |
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Post by marksenior on Jun 23, 2017 12:29:34 GMT
S Glos result
Con 873
Lab 615
LDem 333
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Post by albion on Jun 23, 2017 13:33:52 GMT
Pleasently surprised by the Nether Edge result. I know a lot of work went into it but the same could be said for Sheffield Central in general and that didn't stop us losing half our vote. People weren't thinking about trees when they voted in the General Election... Perhaps not, but the voters of Bosworth must have a thing for planks to have reelected Tredinnick. |
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Post by middleenglander on Jun 23, 2017 13:55:57 GMT
East Cambridgeshire, Soham North - Conservative hold | Party | 2017 votes | 2017 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | Conservative | 423 | 59.7% | -4.3% | -4.2% | -2.7% | -1.0% | Liberal Democrat | 178 | 25.1% | +4.6% | +4.1% | +3.2% | +2.4% | Labour | 108 | 15.2% | -0.4% | +0.1% | -0.6% | -1.4% | Total | 709 |
| 34% | 35% | 61% | 65% |
Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat ~ 4¼% since 2015 and ~ 3% / 1¾% since 2011 Council now 36 Conservative, 2 Liberal Democrat, 1 Independent Powys, Yscir - Conservative gain from Independent| Party | 2017 B votes | 2017 B share | since 2012 | since 2008 | | Conservative | 165 | 29.8% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent C Davies | 144 | 26.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Plaid Cymru | 101 | 18.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Green | 80 | 14.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent Evans | 62 | 11.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent S Evans | 2 | 0.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent Thomas |
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| -18.6% | Total | 554 |
| 112% | 126% |
Swing not meaningful Council now 30 Independent, 20 Conservative, 13 Liberal Democrat, 7 Labour, 2 Plaid Cymru, 1 Green Sheffield, Nether Edge & Sharrow - Labour hold | Party | 2017 votes | 2017 share | since 2016 "top" | since 2016 "average" | | Labour | 2,641 | 45.0% | +6.8% | +6.5% | Green | 2,509 | 42.7% | +8.4% | +8.4% | Liberal Democrat | 722 | 12.3% | -2.3% | -1.0% | Conservative |
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| -3.9% | -4.2% | UKIP |
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| -3.7% | -3.9% | Independent |
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| -3.4% | -3.6% | TUSC |
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| -2.0% | -2.1% | Total votes | 5,872 |
| 79% | 84% |
Swing Labour to Green approaching 1% since 2016
Council now 56 Labour, 20 Liberal Democrat, 4 Green, 4 UKIP
South Gloucestershire, Winterbourne - Conservative hold
| Party | 2017 votes | 2017 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | | Conservative | 873 | 47.9% | +1.6% | +0.5% | -12.9% | -13.3% | Labour | 615 | 33.8% | +18.6% | +17.7% | +11.2% | +11.8% | Liberal Democrat | 333 | 18.3% | -3.8% | -0.1% | +1.7% | +1.4% | UKIP |
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| 37% | 41% | 65% | 67% |
Swing Conservative to Labour ~ 8½% since 2015 and ~ 12% / 12½% since 2011
Council now 40 Conservative, 16 Liberal Democrat, 14 Labour
Stockton-On-Tees, Yarm - Conservative hold
| Party | 2017 votes | 2017 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | Conservative | 1,179 | 50.8% | +4.6% | +3.7% | +4.7% | +4.7% | Independent ^ | 677 | 29.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Labour | 394 | 17.0% | -4.4% | -3.7% | +0.2% | -0.1% | Liberal Democrat | 73 | 3.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | -1.5% | -1.2% | Yarm Independent |
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| -32.5% | -32.2% | -32.4% | -32.5% | Total votes | 2,323 |
| 41% | 46% | 59% | 63% |
^ candidate stood as Yarm Independent in 2015 and was elected as a Conservative in 2011
Swing, if meaningful, ~ 3½% / 4% Yarm Independent / Independent to Conservative since 2015
Council now 29 Labour, 13 Conservative, 10 Resident Groups, 2 Independent, 1 Liberal Democrat, 1 Vacant
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 23, 2017 16:38:07 GMT
Stockton Yarm result Con 1179 Yarm Ind 677 Lab 394 LDem 73 Tory Surge! May should go for a GE of the back of that, crazy comrade corbyn leaching support in North East marginal! so sharp you'll cut yourself mr b.  |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 23, 2017 17:50:40 GMT
Did you miss the significance of "Interesting"? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 23, 2017 17:52:10 GMT
How does a Ward branded politicly disinterested due to no nominations then have a 62% turnout at the following by-election??? No ward can be disinterested politically. The electors may however be uninterested. |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Jun 23, 2017 18:04:14 GMT
How does a Ward branded politicly disinterested due to no nominations then have a 62% turnout at the following by-election??? No ward can be disinterested politically. The electors may however be uninterested. Here's the reason. Nobody knew that the Independent councillor was standing down in 2017 until after nominations closed. I am beginning to think this is the same reason why when a community councillor stood down in Llansantffraed in 2012 because nobody knew he had stood down (and I handed in my forms because I was standing) that's why I got elected. Why did I not get elected in 2017? Because I told people that four members of the council were standing down and we ended up with six existing councillors seeking re-election and eight new candidates (and a turnout of 66% to boot). Therefore I believe this means one thing, at the next set of local elections to Powys, Ceredigion, Carmarthenshire, Gwynedd and Pembrokeshire, the council should be forced to have an article on the front page of the local newspaper saying "Council up for election" with all the details of nomination listed and a month before nominations close all councillors not standing again should have their details printed so that people know they are not standing again. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 23, 2017 18:25:06 GMT
No ward can be disinterested politically. The electors may however be uninterested. Here's the reason. Nobody knew that the Independent councillor was standing down in 2017 until after nominations closed. I am beginning to think this is the same reason why when a community councillor stood down in Llansantffraed in 2012 because nobody knew he had stood down (and I handed in my forms because I was standing) that's why I got elected. Why did I not get elected in 2017? Because I told people that four members of the council were standing down and we ended up with six existing councillors seeking re-election and eight new candidates (and a turnout of 66% to boot). Therefore I believe this means one thing, at the next set of local elections to Powys, Ceredigion, Carmarthenshire, Gwynedd and Pembrokeshire, the council should be forced to have an article on the front page of the local newspaper saying "Council up for election" with all the details of nomination listed and a month before nominations close all councillors not standing again should have their details printed so that people know they are not standing again. 1. Do Welsh local authorities have powers over local newspapers? 2. How does anybody know which councillors are not standing again until nominations have closed? |
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Post by yellowperil on Jun 23, 2017 18:37:06 GMT
No ward can be disinterested politically. The electors may however be uninterested. Here's the reason. Nobody knew that the Independent councillor was standing down in 2017 until after nominations closed. I am beginning to think this is the same reason why when a community councillor stood down in Llansantffraed in 2012 because nobody knew he had stood down (and I handed in my forms because I was standing) that's why I got elected. Why did I not get elected in 2017? Because I told people that four members of the council were standing down and we ended up with six existing councillors seeking re-election and eight new candidates (and a turnout of 66% to boot). Therefore I believe this means one thing, at the next set of local elections to Powys, Ceredigion, Carmarthenshire, Gwynedd and Pembrokeshire, the council should be forced to have an article on the front page of the local newspaper saying "Council up for election" with all the details of nomination listed and a month before nominations close all councillors not standing again should have their details printed so that people know they are not standing again. Interesting. Why those particular counties- do you think this is a peculiar mid Wales problem and if so why? And the bit about councillors announcing they are standing down a month before nominations close sounds a bit prescriptive - in most cases this would happen anyway but if it doesn't there is probably a good reason why that information is being withheld, and I cannot see a mechanism where you could legally require it. |
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Post by yellowperil on Jun 23, 2017 18:55:24 GMT
The Yscir result has been posted amidst the May 2017 county council election results for Brecknockshire Steve Davies (Independent) - 2 2 votes. Interesting. It is interesting that on middleenglander's spreadsheet it showed that Mr Davies had accumulated his vote "from nowhere" at the last election.  Anyway, clearly by the time the electorate had worked their way through this long ballot paper they were bored with Welsh names and went instead for a Scottish one also "from nowhere" |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jun 23, 2017 21:07:26 GMT
There were 3,000 odd candidates across Wales each with an agent and ten assentors.
Each of them knew there was an election coming.
Yscir was just a little less 'fortunate' than the three dozen or so places in Wales where only one candidate stood.
I don't want to point the blame at anyone but I'm amazed the retiring Councillor didn't have a favoured possible successor lined up, nor that any of the other 72 councillors in Powys didn't know that she wasn't standing.
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Post by cefin on Jun 25, 2017 12:25:03 GMT
I'm not aware that anybody has to make a public announcement that they are not standing again. By the same token Local authorities don't to the best of my knowledge announce that current councillors are not re-standing.
The local papers normally put in any formal announcements by councillors not re-standing and then often, but not always, check the nominations after the final cut off time and date and note any current councillors who have not submitted candidacy forms.
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Post by Robert Waller on Jun 26, 2017 10:20:18 GMT
Did you miss the significance of "Interesting"? Well, I at least think you were attempting a snooker-related jest ... ... unfortunately the Ginger magician from Romford (or Plumstead) was/is Steve Davis. |
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