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Post by mboy on May 9, 2017 19:30:58 GMT
I was thinking (while I was trying not to think of elections)... while a number of countries have had woman head of state, and probably more countries have had a woman head of government (i.e. PM) it's relatively rare for countries to have had an all woman duarchy - both at the same time. Here are a few that I've seen:
UK - Thatcher/Queen Elizabeth II
Denmark - Thorning/Queen Margaret
Australia - Gillard/Queen Elizabeth II
There are probably a few more.
However, I cannot think of any examples, other than the UK, where a second all woman duarchy has occurred:
UK - May/Queen Elizabeth II
Are there any others? Or are we British the ground-breakers here?
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Post by mondialito on May 9, 2017 19:46:02 GMT
New Zealand got there first. Jenny Shipley followed by Helen Clark as PM with Elizabeth II as Head of State.
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Post by mboy on May 9, 2017 19:56:57 GMT
Bugger. I wasnt aware of Jenny Shipley. Ah well.
(Shipley never won an election...but then neither do queens!)
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Post by greenchristian on May 9, 2017 20:00:20 GMT
And, of course, it's been historically more common in countries where the two are the same person (examples from British history include Elizabeth I, Mary Queen of Scots, Mary Tudor, and Anne).[/pedant]  |
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Post by johnloony on May 9, 2017 20:13:57 GMT
Tara Halonen was President of Finland from 2000 to 2012, and her prime ministers included Anneli Jäättenmäki (April to June 2003) and Mari Kiviniemi (June 2010 to June 2011).
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Post by johnloony on May 9, 2017 21:01:52 GMT
From 1994 to 2000 Chandrika Kumaratunga was President of Sri Lanka and Sirimavo Bandaranaike was PM.
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Post by johnloony on May 9, 2017 21:16:36 GMT
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Post by mondialito on May 9, 2017 21:19:15 GMT
Kim Campbell (Canada) and Portia Simpson-Miller (Jamaica) are also among the Queen's past PMs.
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Post by johnloony on May 9, 2017 21:30:35 GMT
San Marino currently has a woman head of state *and* a woman head of state. I suppose that it could, for the purposes of this thread, be considered cheating if a country has two heads of state instead of one, but anyway: the two Captains-Regent (who hold office for six months at a time) are, for the first time, both women. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captains_Regent |
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Post by Foggy on May 11, 2017 4:31:43 GMT
New Zealand got there first. Jenny Shipley followed by Helen Clark as PM with Elizabeth II as Head of State. There was a Maori Queen (Te Atairangikaahu) for much of this time too, and Silvia Cartwright served as Governor-General for part of Clark's premiership. |
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Post by neilm on May 20, 2017 23:09:23 GMT
Bugger. I wasnt aware of Jenny Shipley. Ah well. (Shipley never won an election...but then neither do queens!) I'm sure there's a straight choice joke in there. |
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Post by john07 on May 28, 2017 20:03:51 GMT
Bugger. I wasnt aware of Jenny Shipley. Ah well. (Shipley never won an election...but then neither do queens!) Neither has May. Yet? |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 6, 2022 13:24:51 GMT
Bump the thread.
There are obviously a few more examples since this thread was last active. I guess the Liz/Liz combination probably holds the record for brevity of duration.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Oct 26, 2022 20:18:41 GMT
Bump the thread. There are obviously a few more examples since this thread was last active. I guess the Liz/Liz combination probably holds the record for brevity of duration. Female Deputy PM too. |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 26, 2022 21:13:53 GMT
I had a vaguely mischievous thought which is the opposite of this thread: in the long term (due to male primogeniture), it is “normal” for there to be. King rather than a Queen. It is “usual” to have a male prime minister. Most people in the UK are white. And the Conservative Party is supposedly the “natural party of government”.
But the last time we had a King and a white male Conservative prime minister was 1952 - and the next time is likely to be after about 2028 (at the earliest), assuming that Labour wins the next general election and assuming that the Labour government lasts for only one term and assuming that the next Conservative leader after Rishi Sunak is a white man.
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