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Post by mrpastelito on Apr 24, 2017 16:46:59 GMT
Le Pen, which is no surprise as I would of voted for her in the first round. How Macron can be considered an outsider by some is laughable. Not quite as laughable as Le Pen trying to label herself as apolitical outsider. She has effectively been a professional politician since joining the legal department of the Front National in 1998. Well she's never even got close to anything remotely resembling power outside her own party, so in that sense she is an outsider. I'd vote for her as Macron was by far the worst candidate of the big four. All the others would've shaken things up one way or the other, he'll just prolong France's downward trajectory and agony (outside the 10 or 15 big cities that is). Anyway I wonder how many départements she'll win? |
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Post by johnloony on Apr 25, 2017 4:18:38 GMT
Definitely not Macron. Almost definitely not Le Pen.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 19:59:22 GMT
Latest joke from France - "Very Oedipal this second round - it's between the one who killed her father, and the one who married his mother." |
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Post by oddroutes on Apr 27, 2017 20:02:49 GMT
results are better than I thought they would be. I guess the GE has reduced the density of committed fascists on the site.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 20:09:37 GMT
I think id sit at home.
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 27, 2017 20:22:23 GMT
Me too. And our politics have almost nothing in common!
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 27, 2017 20:26:07 GMT
He's going to be a new Giscard, except that Giscard's wife wasn't old enough to be his mother.
He'll have a few years of gimmicky meetings with binmen and then get done over by a cannibal dictator with a bag of diamonds.
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Post by Jack on Apr 27, 2017 22:16:00 GMT
results are better than I thought they would be. I guess the GE has reduced the density of committed fascists on the site. I'm almost tempted to change my vote to Le Pen now... |
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Post by neilm on Apr 28, 2017 15:46:15 GMT
It's a tough choice. On balance, I'd go for Le Pen despite being closer to Macron. France needs a shake up and the EU needs a kick up the backside.
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 28, 2017 22:10:13 GMT
A definite abstention I dislike LePen more but there's not enough I like about Macron to vote for him. His social agenda is fine but I won't vote for anyone lauding liberal economics "Let Hitler take office. He will soon go bankrupt, and then it will be our day" - Hermann Remmele, KPD member of the Reichstag. I mean he wasn't wrong, it just took rather longer than anticipated and only applied to part of the country... |
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 28, 2017 22:12:59 GMT
Not sure if a country with all manner of public order and domestic terrorism problems particularly needs 'shaking up' (as many here seem to desire), but then I'm not a sociopath.
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Post by mrpastelito on Apr 28, 2017 22:40:51 GMT
Not sure if a country with all manner of public order and domestic terrorism problems particularly needs 'shaking up' (as many here seem to desire), but then I'm not a sociopath. As ever, France needs a revolution. Only reactionaries and ancien régime sycophants like you could fail to see that  |
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Post by carlton43 on Apr 28, 2017 22:44:19 GMT
Not sure if a country with all manner of public order and domestic terrorism problems particularly needs 'shaking up' (as many here seem to desire), but then I'm not a sociopath. That is for others to say and we see it differently. |
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Post by carlton43 on Apr 28, 2017 22:47:31 GMT
Not sure if a country with all manner of public order and domestic terrorism problems particularly needs 'shaking up' (as many here seem to desire), but then I'm not a sociopath. .......................AND When are you going to move on from striking these unconvincing Laurentian poses? |
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Post by observer on Apr 29, 2017 5:43:00 GMT
A poor choice between an economic protectionist and a corporatist...I'd reluctantly vote for Le Pen
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Post by neilm on Apr 29, 2017 13:08:55 GMT
Not sure if a country with all manner of public order and domestic terrorism problems particularly needs 'shaking up' (as many here seem to desire), but then I'm not a sociopath. My interest is economic, as ever. They all realise that things are going wrong but none of them want to grasp the nettle. Obviously I'm rather anxious to prevent too much social shaking up! |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 29, 2017 15:51:09 GMT
"Let Hitler take office. He will soon go bankrupt, and then it will be our day" - Hermann Remmele, KPD member of the Reichstag. I mean he wasn't wrong, it just took rather longer than anticipated and only applied to part of the country... And ironically, it then went bankrupt too. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 29, 2017 15:52:11 GMT
A poor choice between an economic protectionist and a corporatist...I'd reluctantly vote for Le Pen A corporate whore or some such, surely? Corporatist in its correct sense is probably closer to what Le Pen is offering... |
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Post by observer on Apr 29, 2017 23:29:00 GMT
A poor choice between an economic protectionist and a corporatist...I'd reluctantly vote for Le Pen A corporate whore or some such, surely? Corporatist in its correct sense is probably closer to what Le Pen is offering... Probably both corporatist to be honest. The first (?) corporatist was Mussolini. But I believe there are striking parallels with the way the EU works with vested interests and against the public and small rivals to the various vested interests. Macron is pro-EU so I am happy to describe him as a corporatist. |
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