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Post by David Ashforth on Mar 4, 2020 12:09:47 GMT
Has anybody got a good source on which towns were coal mining communities? I can find sources on where coal mines were located and make some educated guesses but its difficult to work out which places were actually substantially affected by coal mining and which simply had coal mines nearby. This is the location of mines rather than mining communities, but it might be of interest.
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Post by robert1 on Mar 15, 2020 10:37:39 GMT
Someone may have a sort mechanism by age. How many MPs are currently over 70?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 15, 2020 10:42:34 GMT
24 current MPs are over 70:
11 Conservatives: Bill Cash, Roger Gale, Peter Bottomley, Paul Beresford, Christopher Chope, Gordon Henderson, Pauline Latham, David Davis, Greg Knight, David Evennett, Bob Stewart. 12 Labour: Barry Sheerman, Margaret Beckett, Margaret Hodge, Virendra Sharma, Marie Rimmer, John Spellar, Jack Dromey, Jeremy Corbyn, George Howarth, Clive Betts, Graham Stringer, Tony Lloyd 1 SNP: Marion Fellows
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Post by greatkingrat on Mar 15, 2020 12:21:55 GMT
Now we need a list of all the Lords over 70. Or it might be easier to just list the ones that are under 70
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Post by andrewp on Mar 15, 2020 12:28:04 GMT
Slightly tongue in cheek, but will Jeremy Corbyn self isolate for the last couple of weeks of his leadership?
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Post by johnloony on Mar 16, 2020 15:50:40 GMT
24 current MPs are over 70: 11 Conservatives: Bill Cash, Roger Gale, Peter Bottomley, Paul Beresford, Christopher Chope, Gordon Henderson, Pauline Latham, David Davis, Greg Knight, David Evennett, Bob Stewart. 12 Labour: Barry Sheerman, Margaret Beckett, Margaret Hodge, Virendra Sharma, Marie Rimmer, John Spellar, Jack Dromey, Jeremy Corbyn, George Howarth, Clive Betts, Graham Stringer, Tony Lloyd 1 SNP: Marion Fellows If you know that answer, do you know the answer to a similar question about the new Parliament? How many MPs are younger than me? I suspect that it might now be a majority.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 16, 2020 16:06:46 GMT
24 current MPs are over 70: 11 Conservatives: Bill Cash, Roger Gale, Peter Bottomley, Paul Beresford, Christopher Chope, Gordon Henderson, Pauline Latham, David Davis, Greg Knight, David Evennett, Bob Stewart. 12 Labour: Barry Sheerman, Margaret Beckett, Margaret Hodge, Virendra Sharma, Marie Rimmer, John Spellar, Jack Dromey, Jeremy Corbyn, George Howarth, Clive Betts, Graham Stringer, Tony Lloyd 1 SNP: Marion Fellows If you know that answer, do you know the answer to a similar question about the new Parliament? How many MPs are younger than me? I suspect that it might now be a majority. That's a bit more difficult because I don't yet have all the birthdates for new MPs. Not many MPs are newly elected aged 69 so I can be confident on the older ones, but not so much on who is either side of 1968.
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Post by greatkingrat on Mar 16, 2020 16:11:52 GMT
Dates of birth for most MPs can be found at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Kingdom_MPs_by_seniority_(2019%E2%80%93present)Of the 604 MPs with birthdates shown, the median MP was born in August 1969 and is currently 50. However the MPs without birthdates were first elected in 2019 and are presumably more likely to be at the younger end of the range, so if they are included the median would probably drop by a year or two.
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 16, 2020 17:17:06 GMT
If you know that answer, do you know the answer to a similar question about the new Parliament? How many MPs are younger than me? I suspect that it might now be a majority. That's a bit more difficult because I don't yet have all the birthdates for new MPs. Not many MPs are newly elected aged 69 so I can be confident on the older ones, but not so much on who is either side of 1968. Even Jo Gideon was only 67, as we had reason to notice recently. She was I think pretty atypical.
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 16, 2020 17:21:56 GMT
24 current MPs are over 70: 11 Conservatives: Bill Cash, Roger Gale, Peter Bottomley, Paul Beresford, Christopher Chope, Gordon Henderson, Pauline Latham, David Davis, Greg Knight, David Evennett, Bob Stewart. 12 Labour: Barry Sheerman, Margaret Beckett, Margaret Hodge, Virendra Sharma, Marie Rimmer, John Spellar, Jack Dromey, Jeremy Corbyn, George Howarth, Clive Betts, Graham Stringer, Tony Lloyd 1 SNP: Marion Fellows If you know that answer, do you know the answer to a similar question about the new Parliament? How many MPs are younger than me? I suspect that it might now be a majority. I don't like to ask that sort of question. I think with this parliament for me the answer for the first time would be all of them. Thank God for the HoL ,I say.
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Post by greatkingrat on Mar 16, 2020 22:11:43 GMT
I'm still waiting for the first Cabinet minister to be younger than me, although Robert Jenrick comes closer.
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Post by bjornhattan on Mar 19, 2020 23:46:15 GMT
The legislation which introduces the new boundaries for Wiltshire has been published. However, looking at the parish wards, there are some very odd councils. Why is it that (for example) Malmesbury has almost all of the town in one ward with 15 councillors, but then a separate single member ward for Backbridge? Lacock has a similar situation (Showell ward), and North Bradley has two single-member wards and a nine-member ward. Why are these bizzare parish wards created?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 20, 2020 5:47:21 GMT
The legislation which introduces the new boundaries for Wiltshire has been published. However, looking at the parish wards, there are some very odd councils. Why is it that (for example) Malmesbury has almost all of the town in one ward with 15 councillors, but then a separate single member ward for Backbridge? Lacock has a similar situation (Showell ward), and North Bradley has two single-member wards and a nine-member ward. Why are these bizzare parish wards created? Presumably because the small single member parish wards cover areas which are in different district wards and the law demands that they then form separate parish wards. So I would guess in this case, the Malmesbury ward of Wiltsire UA covers the whole of Malmesbury less the area covered by Backbridge parish ward which is in some other ward
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Post by bjornhattan on Mar 20, 2020 6:05:31 GMT
The legislation which introduces the new boundaries for Wiltshire has been published. However, looking at the parish wards, there are some very odd councils. Why is it that (for example) Malmesbury has almost all of the town in one ward with 15 councillors, but then a separate single member ward for Backbridge? Lacock has a similar situation (Showell ward), and North Bradley has two single-member wards and a nine-member ward. Why are these bizzare parish wards created? Presumably because the small single member parish wards cover areas which are in different district wards and the law demands that they then form separate parish wards. So I would guess in this case, the Malmesbury ward of Wiltsire UA covers the whole of Malmesbury less the area covered by Backbridge parish ward which is in some other ward Indeed, Backbridge parish ward is in Sherston (which is a doughnut ward around Malmesbury). It is odd that no parish ward can be in two district wards, but presumably makes life easier when running the elections and at the count.
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 20, 2020 10:40:37 GMT
The legislation which introduces the new boundaries for Wiltshire has been published. However, looking at the parish wards, there are some very odd councils. Why is it that (for example) Malmesbury has almost all of the town in one ward with 15 councillors, but then a separate single member ward for Backbridge? Lacock has a similar situation (Showell ward), and North Bradley has two single-member wards and a nine-member ward. Why are these bizzare parish wards created? Presumably because the small single member parish wards cover areas which are in different district wards and the law demands that they then form separate parish wards Yes, this leads to ridiculously small divisions in some cases.
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Post by johnloony on Mar 25, 2020 21:09:59 GMT
One of the first political/electoral books I was given as a present when I was first interested in elections (aged 14) was F.W.S.Craig's election results 1974-77. Thus I had a relatively early awareness of the contrafibularities of the party system in Northern Ireland in the 1970s. There was (according to the book) the VUPP - the Vanguard Unionist Progressive Party, led by William Craig.
It was only later on that I became more aware, in general terms, of the "Vanguard movement" and "Ulster Vanguard" etc. If it wasn't for the F.W.S.Craig book, I wouldn't have heard of the term "VUPP".
So my question - and I suppose this question is for anyone who is old enough to have been directly aware of such things in the 1970s, and can remember - is: Was the party usually, or often, or even occasionally, referred to as the "Vanguard Unionist Progressive Party" or the "Vee You Pee Pee"? Or was it always just called "Vanguard"? I get the impression that the name "VUPP" might only have been used on the ballot papers and not much anywhere else.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 25, 2020 21:13:53 GMT
I think it was pretty much always just called "Vanguard".
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Post by Pimpernal on Mar 31, 2020 6:52:26 GMT
Does anyone know of any District or Borough Councils that operate the Cabinet and Committee system?
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Post by Pimpernal on Apr 1, 2020 6:17:22 GMT
Does anyone know of any District or Borough Councils that operate the Cabinet and Committee system? Are there none?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 11, 2020 10:03:43 GMT
Thinking of a jokey reference made by @barnabymarder in the Bradford East profile. What is the earliest election for which we have accurate records of votes cast? And indeed, when did competition for seats begin to emerge? It strikes me that I have never even thought about the topic.
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