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Post by Right Leaning on Jul 5, 2018 7:45:37 GMT
How about this party
B.U.F. who stood in 1937 in St Pancras Borough?
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Post by Crimson King on Jul 5, 2018 7:58:07 GMT
How about this party B.U.F. who stood in 1937 in St Pancras Borough? really asking?
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Jul 5, 2018 8:00:10 GMT
How about this party B.U.F. who stood in 1937 in St Pancras Borough? The British Union of Fascists?
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Post by Right Leaning on Jul 5, 2018 8:38:30 GMT
How about this party B.U.F. who stood in 1937 in St Pancras Borough? really asking? Sorry if you found that a silly question, and yes I probably should have realised. However I always think that the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Thanks to Old Fashioned Leftie who answered without having to score a point.
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Post by Right Leaning on Jul 5, 2018 8:48:53 GMT
And some more historic local party abbreviations:-
U.M. Peo (Peoples Party?) R.A. (Ratepayers Alliance/Association?)
These are from local elections in Kensington Borough.
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Jul 5, 2018 8:57:31 GMT
And some more historic local party abbreviations:- U.M. Peo (Peoples Party?) R.A. (Ratepayers Alliance/Association?) These are from local elections in Kensington Borough. U.M. is probably Union Movement - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Movement
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Post by Crimson King on Jul 5, 2018 11:30:04 GMT
Sorry if you found that a silly question, and yes I probably should have realised. However I always think that the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Thanks to Old Fashioned Leftie who answered without having to score a point. apologies, I wasn't aiming to score a point, but if anything was not wishing to look foolish if you were asking ironically or something. As it is I have still ended up looking foolish so there you are
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Post by Right Leaning on Jul 5, 2018 11:49:56 GMT
Sorry if you found that a silly question, and yes I probably should have realised. However I always think that the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Thanks to Old Fashioned Leftie who answered without having to score a point. apologies, I wasn't aiming to score a point, but if anything was not wishing to look foolish if you were asking ironically or something. As it is I have still ended up looking foolish so there you are Thanks for the apology, I am loading lots of historic election results onto the sister site ( oldukcouncils.freeforums.net/) and so am not always having chance to check some of the abbreviations, or indeed want some of them verified. I will try and check before I ask the question.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 5, 2018 11:51:53 GMT
Is there any onus on parishes to co-opt? I suspect there will be some that are run by a small clique of long established councillors who will avoid co-opting, even when willing new blood volunteers. Full Council has to instruct the clerk to advertise the vacancies, so the council can chose not to co-opt, and can chose not to co-opt those who apply. We've recently had a Full Council chosing not to go to co-options, but that was because we had another vacancy which was still being advertised for election, so we were effectively deferring going to co-option so we could advertise both of them (and we actually advertise all standing vacancies). In this cycle we've once decided not to co-opt, I can't remember the details as I missed the meeting, but I think the applicant was the former "my mother was an alien" councillor. There's a detail I'm unsure of, but if a cyclical election results in a council with too few members it legally cannot function and is forced to recruit additional members. I'm not sure of the process as the council is inquorate so the council can't decide how to get the additional members, I think the primary authority takes over. The primary authority has powers to co-opt to achieve quorate status.
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Post by johnloony on Jul 6, 2018 2:23:08 GMT
And some more historic local party abbreviations:- U.M. Peo (Peoples Party?) R.A. (Ratepayers Alliance/Association?) These are from local elections in Kensington Borough. RA is usually Residents' Association or Ratepayers Association. Sometimes they are R&RA - Ratepayers' and Residents' Association. In Croydon for a while there was a Ratepayers' Protection Association which was a splinter group from the RA.
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Post by Alan Willis on Jul 7, 2018 19:57:53 GMT
Looking back at election results from the old Metropolitan Boroughs that existed between 1900 and 1965, does anyone know what these party abbreviations stood for? From the City of Westminster: CDL MCD SDP (from around 1909) From St. Marylebone: NPU NFDS Sorry, just found this posting - these are the labels I used for the publication of London Borough Results 1900-62 CDL = Citizens Defence League MCD = Middle Class Defence Association SDP = Social Democratic Party NPU = Non Political Union NFDS = As mentioned 'National Federation of Discharged and Demobolized Sailors and Soldier UM = Union Movement Peo = Peoples Candidate R.A = Ratepayer's Association
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Post by johnloony on Jul 8, 2018 0:57:04 GMT
MCD = Middle Class Defence Association Ha! That sounds like a paramilitary organisation in Northern Ireland. It would make domestic politics a bit more, er, interesting if we did it like that.
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Post by tonyhill on Jul 15, 2018 20:56:49 GMT
Sorry if this is a bit convoluted. In my activist days I used to subscribe to Schofield's election law. From time to time I would get a bundle of changes to the statutory instruments, or Acts of Parliament and I'd update the folders accordingly. I don't know if this still exists or whether it is all done on line now. What I am also wondering about, though, is how similar changes in instructions are conveyed to Registrars of Births Marriages and Deaths (I'm assuming that it would be in a similar manner). The reason I am interested is because of the way the Registrar has interpreted the information about my mother-in-law's death, and the possible implications this might have in situations like Gosport.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 15, 2018 21:16:11 GMT
Sorry if this is a bit convoluted. In my activist days I used to subscribe to Schofield's election law. From time to time I would get a bundle of changes to the statutory instruments, or Acts of Parliament and I'd update the folders accordingly. I don't know if this still exists or whether it is all done on line now. What I am also wondering about, though, is how similar changes in instructions are conveyed to Registrars of Births Marriages and Deaths (I'm assuming that it would be in a similar manner). The reason I am interested is because of the way the Registrar has interpreted the information about my mother-in-law's death, and the possible implications this might have in situations like Gosport. There is a volume of Halsbury's Statutes dealing with the law as it applies to Registration, and Halsbury's publisher LexisNexis provides an updater service, but I would imagine things move a lot slower in this area of the law. However if you remember your Schofield, the main way council EROs used to keep up with changes in election law and practice, and were advised about new laws coming into force, was by circulars - for a long time from the Home Office, then the role was transferred to other departments. So as far as official guidance from above is concerned, you want to look out for anything communicated to local registration departments by the General Register Office. (NB the GRO is part of HM Passport Services which is an agency of the Home Office, so ultimately the Minister responsible is Caroline Nokes - but I doubt she deals with it much)
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Post by tonyhill on Jul 16, 2018 5:27:12 GMT
Many thanks David.
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Post by Adrian on Jul 16, 2018 8:52:23 GMT
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Post by greatkingrat on Jul 16, 2018 11:37:09 GMT
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jul 16, 2018 13:36:29 GMT
If there had been a third election, Mary Miles Moran was ready to be the candidate.
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Post by anthony on Jul 23, 2018 12:32:35 GMT
Sorry if this is a bit convoluted. In my activist days I used to subscribe to Schofield's election law. From time to time I would get a bundle of changes to the statutory instruments, or Acts of Parliament and I'd update the folders accordingly. I don't know if this still exists or whether it is all done on line now. What I am also wondering about, though, is how similar changes in instructions are conveyed to Registrars of Births Marriages and Deaths (I'm assuming that it would be in a similar manner). The reason I am interested is because of the way the Registrar has interpreted the information about my mother-in-law's death, and the possible implications this might have in situations like Gosport. There is a volume of Halsbury's Statutes dealing with the law as it applies to Registration, and Halsbury's publisher LexisNexis provides an updater service, but I would imagine things move a lot slower in this area of the law. However if you remember your Schofield, the main way council EROs used to keep up with changes in election law and practice, and were advised about new laws coming into force, was by circulars - for a long time from the Home Office, then the role was transferred to other departments. So as far as official guidance from above is concerned, you want to look out for anything communicated to local registration departments by the General Register Office. (NB the GRO is part of HM Passport Services which is an agency of the Home Office, so ultimately the Minister responsible is Caroline Nokes - but I doubt she deals with it much) Both Schofield's and Parker's Law and Conduct of Elections still exist in hard copy. I suspect Halsbury's Stats has only a handful of hard copy subscribers now, most people will use the legislation modules on LexisLibrary (or Westlaw). It was a faff to work out how the law currently stood, even in 2004 when I was a technical writer there.
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Post by tonyhill on Jul 23, 2018 16:19:36 GMT
Thank you David and Anthony - I think I will write to Caroline Nokes and she can get her civil servants to answer my particular query, sounds like the easiest solution.
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