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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 17:37:47 GMT
There's too much sport in this forum.. So here is the result of the 2011 election to the regional assembly for Thames Chiltern (other regions to follow in due course) | | | change | seats | change | | | | | | | Con | 583984 | 45.9% | -0.3 | 107 | +7 | Lab | 291512 | 22.9% | +6.4 | 31 | +6 | LD | 256342 | 20.2% | -6.8 | 12 | -12 | Ind | 58561 | 4.6% | +0.5 | | | Grn | 48409 | 3.8% | +0.6 | | -1 | UKIP | 28676 | 2.3% | +0.5 | | | Oth | 4272 | 0.3% | -0.9 | | |
(I do wish it was possible to right align in the tables on here) Con Gain from LD Abingdon Aylesbury South Chesham Maidenhead North Newport Pagnell Sandy St Albans North St Albans South Wantage Woodley Lab Gain from Con Banbury West Borehamwood Welwyn Garden City South Lab Gain from LD Milton Keynes Bradwell Watford Exchange Lab Gain from Green Oxford St Clements A disaster for the LDs obviously especially in the Thames Valley being wiped out in Berkshire and losing long standing strongholds like Abingdon and Wantage. They were saved from oblivion by relatively strong showings in less traditional areas of support such as Watford and Bedford and did particularly well to hold Houghton Regis. Labour's gains were modest, picking up only three seats from the Conservatives which are of the 'they should never have lost them in the first place' variety. All their gains were in Hertfordshire and Oxfordshire - although their biggest increase in vote share was in Bedfordshire, this yielded no extra seats. The Greens targeted poorly, increasing their share in the region overall, in Oxfordshire in particular and in five of the six Oxford seats, the excpetion being the seat which they previously held and thus lost to Labour. Besides that Labour's best result was in Watford Exchange which was gained on a huge swing and now joins the list of safe Labour seats as it was before 2003. As with Bedfordshire, good increases in vote share in Reading and Slough prodcued no gains in seats while progress was sluggish in many of the smaller towns where the party might hope to win seats in a half decent year, such as Hatfield, HItchin, Letwchworth, Didcot - especially disappointing in Hemel Hempstead and High Wycombe (the latter seeing an unusual LD improvement compared with 2007). The Conservatives obviously can be satisfied to increase their majority even compared with a strong result in 2007
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Post by iainbhx on Jul 4, 2012 17:41:53 GMT
There's too much sport in this forum.. So here is the result of the 2011 election to the regional assembly for Thames Chiltern (other regions to follow in due course) But what about the Zweite Stimmung? (I may calculate it for amusement later)
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 17:59:58 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 19:29:32 GMT
Labour targets (with swing required) HItchin | 0.3% | HIgh Wycombe South | 1.8% | Houghton Regis (LD) | 2.0% | Hatfield | 2.4% | St Albans East (LD)(3rd) | 2.6% | St Albans South (3rd) | 2.7% | Didcot | 2.7% | HIgh Wycombe East | 2.8% | Bedford East (LD) | 3.6% | MK Whaddon | 3.9% | Luton Icknield | 4.7% | Banbury East | 4.9% | MK Loughton | 4.9% | Bracknell North | 5.0% | Hemel West | 5.2% | HIgh Wycombe West | 5.6% | Hemel East | 6.4% | St Albans N (3rd) | 6.7% | Letchworth | 7.1% | Bicester | 7.9% | Biggleswade | 8.5% | Reading Tilehurst | 9.3% | Bracknell South | 9.5% |
LD targets Milton Keynes Bradwell (Lab) | 0.1% | Abingdon | 0.3% | St Albans South | 0.4% | Woodley | 1.2% | Wantage | 2.4% | St Albans North | 2.5% | Newbury | 2.7% | High Wycombe East (3rd) | 3.0% | Chesham | 3.2% | Newport Pagnell | 3.5% | Aylesbury South | 3.5% | Thatcham | 3.7% | Rickmansworth | 4.0% | High Wycombe West | 4.3% | Burghfield | 5.8% | Drayton | 5.9% | Tring | 6.0% | Chorleywood | 6.3% | Maidenhead N | 6.9% | Bishops Stortford | 7.2% | MK Whaddon | 7.5% | MK Loughton | 7.8% | MK Linford | 8.1% | Kidlington | 9.4% | HIgh Wycombe S | 9.5% | Baldock | 9.9% |
Conservative targets Welwyn GC South | 0.1% | Watford Oxhey | 0.5% | Borehamwood | 0.7% | St Albans East | 1.1% | Banbury West | 1.7% | The Langleys | 1.9% | Milton Keynes Wolverton | 2.0% | Hinksey | 3.1% | Watford Cassiobury | 3.6% |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 19:44:15 GMT
2007 | | | change | seats | change | | | | | | | Con | 494236 | 46.3% | +5.8 | 100 | +15 | LD | 288061 | 27.0% | -3.7 | 24 | -11 | Lab | 176671 | 16.5% | -4.1 | 25 | -2 | Ind | 43190 | 4.0% | -0.8 | | -2 | Grn | 34212 | 3.2% | +0.9 | 1 | | UKIP | 19130 | 1.8% | +1.1 | | | Oth | 12463 | 1.2% | +0.7 | | |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 19:49:51 GMT
2003 | | | change | seats | change | | | | | | | Con | 375878 | 40.5% | +0.7 | 85 | +9 | LD | 284778 | 30.7% | +3.5 | 35 | +7 | Lab | 191291 | 20.6% | -6.4 | 27 | -18 | Ind | 44419 | 4.8% | +0.3 | 2 | +1 | Grn | 20895 | 2.3% | +0.9 | 1 | +1 | UKIP | 6585 | 0.7% | +0.7 | | | Oth | 4384 | 0.5% | +0.4 | | |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 20:08:17 GMT
1999 | | | change | seats | change | | | | | | | Con | 361695 | 39.8% | +9.2 | 76 | +39 | LD | 247072 | 27.2% | -0.9 | 28 | -14 | Lab | 245098 | 27.0% | -8.3 | 45 | -24 | Ind | 40416 | 4.5% | -0.2 | 1 | -1 | Grn | 12549 | 1.4% | +0.4 | | | Oth | 1154 | 0.1% | -0.4 | | |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 20:13:30 GMT
1995 | | | change | seats | change | | | | | | | Lab | 374214 | 35.3% | +9.3 | 69 | +27 | Con | 324052 | 30.6% | -11.0 | 37 | -47 | LD | 295710 | 27.9% | +2.4 | 42 | +20 | Ind | 49340 | 4.7% | +0.2 | 2 | | Grn | 10171 | 1.0% | -1.0 | | | Oth | 6303 | 0.6% | +0.2 | | |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 20:15:46 GMT
1991 | | | seats | | | | | Con | 478883 | 41.6% | 84 | Lab | 298838 | 26.0% | 42 | LD | 293038 | 25.5% | 22 | Ind | 51948 | 4.5% | 2 | Grn | 22516 | 2.0% | | Oth | 4975 | 0.4% | |
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Post by kevinlarkin on Jul 4, 2012 20:17:09 GMT
This is very impressive, if somewhat pointless. Deserves an exalt in any case.
You appear to have a couple of split wards in Reading. What were your criteria for electorate size and maximum variation?
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Post by Philip Davies on Jul 4, 2012 20:26:56 GMT
What is the capital of this weissen kopf Landtag? Aylesbury is the most central location.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 20:30:50 GMT
Shouldn't be any split wards, but obviously on elections before about 2003 in most areas there are different ward boundaries so many end up not fitting perfectly with my boundaries. My criteria was to aim for very roughly electorates of about 20,000. This is because (since I do this kind of thing for the whole country) this is the minimum it could be given the size of the largest wards, in Birmingham. I also find that in this region and many others it allows for a large number of towns to form single urban seats (I wanted Bushey for example to form a single seat with no wards from outside). There is a reasonably wide variation of up to around 20% +/- I have a preference for natural communities so Letchworth is quite oversized with about 25,000 voters but HItchin would have had about 28,000 if I had included all 5 wards which I deemed too much so I excluded one
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 20:32:53 GMT
What is the capital of this weissen kopf Landtag? Aylesbury is the most central location. It would have to be Oxford, especially as Cambridge is the capital of Essex-East Anglia. If it is going to be thrown open to other candidates, then Aylesbury would indeed have a decent claim, but I should then be putting the case for St Albans
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Post by Philip Davies on Jul 4, 2012 20:40:51 GMT
If the county councils go then the Oxfordshire Chamber will be available! Is Winchester the capital of its Lander?
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Post by cibwr on Jul 4, 2012 20:45:15 GMT
Someone has too much time on their hands, but its certainly worth an Exalt!
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Post by iainbhx on Jul 4, 2012 20:46:52 GMT
If we have a very British 33% top-up with no Fünf-Prozent-Hurde, then the Landtag of Themse-Chiltern would be 106 Con, 51 Lab, 46 LDm, 10 FW, 8 Grn, 5 UKIP.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 20:52:47 GMT
If the county councils go then the Oxfordshire Chamber will be available! Is Winchester the capital of its Lander? I like to have generally larger cities as the capital - I'm not a fan of the American system which very often has small more or less irrelevant towns as State capitals (not that Winchester is irrelevant in any way). I tended to favour Southampton as the capital for that region (which includes Hampshire, Dorset and IoW). Oxford is of course not the largest city in this region (I think that would be Luton and we're not going there) but it is one of the largest and clearly a regional centre of sorts. This would mean that the regional capitals of the southern regions would be Plymouth, Bristol, Southampton, Brighton, Oxford and Cambridge. Winchester seems a bit small to be in this group, especially when you consider that the remaining regions will be centred on Birmingham, Nottingham, Manchester, Newcastle and Leeds (though it is admittedly difficult to argue against York's claim in the last case)
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 20:57:52 GMT
Someone has too much time on their hands, but its certainly worth an Exalt! Haha - not too much time, just time well managed. I could have spent this evening sat in a draughty school hall in Hemel listening to would be Conservative police commisioners. I decided that would likely be a total of three hours out of an evening that could deffo be better (more enjoyably) spent. Most of the fundamentals of this Lander stuff, I had done years ago (when I did have way too mcuh time on my hands)
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 4, 2012 21:10:17 GMT
So are you going to do the whole of the UK in due course, Pete?? You deserve an exalt for this alone
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2012 21:24:27 GMT
It is somehting I have done before back int he day when I had to use a pocket calculator and write everything down by hand. With Excel everything is of course much quicker and easier (and Kevins excellent plan builder site, which I do hope is never going to be taken down, has helped as well). On the pointlessness of such an exercise, it is of course pointless on many levels but the same could be said of many hobbies and passtimes. I think having played around with combinations of wards in this way has been a good way to familiarise myself with the voting habits of various localities over the last couple of decades or so, in a way that just looking at the ward results on their own wouldn't quite do. Its why I can for example look at a boundary proposal and be able to pretty well assess what the partisan impact would be before I've made any actual calculations. How vital that ability is is another question I suppose
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