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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 24, 2019 7:47:04 GMT
Me, to non-aligned. This time, there's no way back for me in the foreseeable future. what happened? You saw the news yesterday right?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 7:48:35 GMT
You saw the news yesterday right? no?
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Post by neilm on Sept 24, 2019 8:26:05 GMT
You saw the news yesterday right? no? There was an unpleasant poster near the conference- removed by the police- and apparently also a leaflet circulating in the hall showing a laser cutting up a JLM membership card.
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 24, 2019 8:31:30 GMT
Me, to non-aligned. This time, there's no way back for me in the foreseeable future. Barnaby I am genuinely sorry to hear that. It is very hard when you feel your Party has betrayed you and having left the Lib Dems for 5 years in 2010 I know how it feels. You did seem much more positive a few days ago, and I was pleased to see that.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 24, 2019 8:38:35 GMT
There was an unpleasant poster near the conference- removed by the police- and apparently also a leaflet circulating in the hall showing a laser cutting up a JLM membership card. But the party asked for the poster to be removed?
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Post by ColinJ on Sept 24, 2019 8:48:05 GMT
There was an unpleasant poster near the conference- removed by the police- and apparently also a leaflet circulating in the hall showing a laser cutting up a JLM membership card. The appearance of these offensive items cannot be put down to specific action or inaction by Labour's leadership or NEC. Given the totally cracked and disfunctional state of politics in Britain, the poster and leafet might be the work of agent provocateurs.
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 24, 2019 8:51:22 GMT
There was an unpleasant poster near the conference- removed by the police- and apparently also a leaflet circulating in the hall showing a laser cutting up a JLM membership card. The appearance of these offensive items cannot be put down to specific action or inaction by Labour's leadership or NEC. Given the totally cracked and disfunctional state of politics in Britain, the poster and leafet might be the work of agent provocateurs. Do you suspect 'Internation Jewish Interests' Colin. I suspect Labour might.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 24, 2019 8:54:47 GMT
Individuals and outside organisations put up posters outside events. The party then involved the police who moved the poster. It isn't a good idea for the party to try and physically move things or people and there are questions of whether this is possible if the items or activities are not illegal.
I haven't seen the leaflet concerned but it is reasonable to say that JLM are not an organisation which has widespread support or sympathy in the party given their attitude to the elected leadership and their beliefs about Israel which are simply not shared by the vast majority of the party.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 24, 2019 9:06:58 GMT
I'd have thought Barnaby's decision was more prompted by the actions of Jenny Formby.
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Post by ColinJ on Sept 24, 2019 9:30:43 GMT
The appearance of these offensive items cannot be put down to specific action or inaction by Labour's leadership or NEC. Given the totally cracked and disfunctional state of politics in Britain, the poster and leafet might be the work of agent provocateurs. Do you suspect 'Internation Jewish Interests' Colin. I suspect Labour might. No, Russians.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Sept 24, 2019 9:42:18 GMT
I'd have thought Barnaby's decision was more prompted by the actions of Jenny Formby. Sorry, what actions? I am not aware.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Sept 24, 2019 10:06:28 GMT
Do you suspect 'Internation Jewish Interests' Colin. I suspect Labour might. No, Russians. Vladimir Putin has more important things to concern him, like the recent success for Yabloko in Central Moscow, than making Labour look antisemitic. They've already done that to themselves and this conference, with even moderates like Lisa Nandy warning unnamed people darkly that "actions have consequences", has shown that.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Sept 24, 2019 10:08:29 GMT
This whole "it's the Russians" McCarthyism is pissing me off. It's not.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 24, 2019 10:56:04 GMT
The appearance of these offensive items cannot be put down to specific action or inaction by Labour's leadership or NEC. Given the totally cracked and disfunctional state of politics in Britain, the poster and leafet might be the work of agent provocateurs. Do you suspect 'Internation Jewish Interests' Colin. I suspect Labour might. No need for that tbh. You always get cranks outside party conferences, no other explanation needed really.
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 24, 2019 10:56:29 GMT
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 24, 2019 11:18:21 GMT
Oh, them - all people who display just how far Labour had moved from its mission. The fact they were part of the Labour party's staff at all is the problem. Thankfully now dealt with but naturally they are bitter and resentful.
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 24, 2019 11:37:31 GMT
Oh, them - all people who display just how far Labour had moved from its mission. The fact they were part of the Labour party's staff at all is the problem. Thankfully now dealt with but naturally they are bitter and resentful. I fear you are exhibiting why there is a problem.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 24, 2019 11:39:52 GMT
Oh, them - all people who display just how far Labour had moved from its mission. The fact they were part of the Labour party's staff at all is the problem. Thankfully now dealt with but naturally they are bitter and resentful. I fear you are exhibiting why there is a problem. They ended up working for people they didn't like being expected to do things they didn't agree with. The honourable option would be to leave and look for employment elsewhere.
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 24, 2019 11:56:31 GMT
I fear you are exhibiting why there is a problem. They ended up working for people they didn't like being expected to do things they didn't agree with. The honourable option would be to leave and look for employment elsewhere. An interesting take on employment rights.
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Post by mboy on Sept 24, 2019 12:04:11 GMT
"Down with TUPE" says leading socialist...
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