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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 9:58:19 GMT
bit like when you tweeted that labour should be doing better? Oh dear I remember that... I will confirm to you know that I am not a Tory (this information cannot leave this forum). *end of statement* lips are sealed
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 9:58:58 GMT
Every time this thread pops up and stays active, I'm checking it in case there's a flood of floor crossers, but instead it's usually just slack water. All part of the job. No TIG supporters yet? you might have a defection next week depending on circumstances (not to TIG though)
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 20, 2019 11:08:09 GMT
Signalled some time ago, depends on a certain Labour NEC decision.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 20, 2019 11:31:50 GMT
If Jackie Walker, after all we know, is allowed to stay in the Labour Party, there will be hell to pay.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 20, 2019 12:46:21 GMT
If Jackie Walker, after all we know, is allowed to stay in the Labour Party, there will be hell to pay. Unfortunately very few people believe in hell anymore, metaphorically or politically.
I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by neilm on Mar 20, 2019 14:53:52 GMT
If Jackie Walker, after all we know, is allowed to stay in the Labour Party, there will be hell to pay. She's doing some sort of 'how to set up an independent media' event in Manchester soon with George Galloway and Chris Williamson MP MP.
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Post by mboy on Mar 20, 2019 15:13:13 GMT
If Jackie Walker, after all we know, is allowed to stay in the Labour Party, there will be hell to pay. She's doing some sort of 'how to set up an independent media' event in Manchester soon with George Galloway and Chris Williamson MP MP. I'm sure Ken Livingstone will pop in for a chat
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Post by iainbhx on Mar 20, 2019 15:54:25 GMT
She's doing some sort of 'how to set up an independent media' event in Manchester soon with George Galloway and Chris Williamson MP MP. I'm sure Ken Livingstone will pop in for a chat Some jazz from Gilad Atzmon perhaps?
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Post by cj on Mar 20, 2019 17:06:31 GMT
If Jackie Walker, after all we know, is allowed to stay in the Labour Party, there will be hell to pay. Unfortunately very few people believe in hell anymore, metaphorically or politically.
More people should read Sartre
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 20, 2019 22:46:23 GMT
She's doing some sort of 'how to set up an independent media' event in Manchester soon with George Galloway and Chris Williamson MP MP. Small correction - apparently it's Walker & Galloway, not Williamson MP MP. I am earnestly hoping that this seals Walker's fate. David is absolutely right in what he says above. Your threatening tone sums up why I simply don't trust you.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 20, 2019 23:37:42 GMT
I'm sure Ken Livingstone will pop in for a chat Some jazz from Gilad Atzmon perhaps? Don't even joke about such things.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 21, 2019 8:51:14 GMT
Small correction - apparently it's Walker & Galloway, not Williamson MP MP. I am earnestly hoping that this seals Walker's fate. David is absolutely right in what he says above. Your threatening tone sums up why I simply don't trust you. That's a bit rich coming from someone who apparently wants most of the PLP to be deselected!
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 21, 2019 8:54:29 GMT
Small correction - apparently it's Walker & Galloway, not Williamson MP MP. I am earnestly hoping that this seals Walker's fate. David is absolutely right in what he says above. Your threatening tone sums up why I simply don't trust you. Barnaby's threatening tone?? Truly we have gone down the rabbit hole and through the looking glass.
You seem determined to drive him both off the forum and out of the party. It is, to say the least an unedifying sight.
Although I suspect his Labour politics and mine are very different, I stand with Barnaby on this both as a person and a party member.
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 21, 2019 9:28:04 GMT
Your threatening tone sums up why I simply don't trust you. Barnaby's threatening tone?? Truly we have gone down the rabbit hole and through the looking glass.
You seem determined to drive him both off the forum and out of the party. It is, to say the least an unedifying sight.
Although I suspect his Labour politics and mine are very different, I stand with Barnaby on this both as a person and a party member. I have never said that I want to do either. If you are making such accusations some proof might be useful. I don't agree with him on this issue and our disagreement goes back to well before this forum. Whether he stays in the party or not is his choice. However I'm not going to pretend to agree with him . I don't.
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 21, 2019 9:28:36 GMT
Your threatening tone sums up why I simply don't trust you. I'm not in a position to make threats. Your failure to trust me is your problem not mine. I don't regard it as a problem. Just a fact.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 21, 2019 9:59:22 GMT
So that's Mike vs David, and now Mike vs Barnaby. Is every thread going to be polluted like this? Quite possibly. Mike doesn't seem to appear happy unless he's in a fight - probably one he's picked himself - with one or more other posters. Sad, but it clearly helps him validate his own opinions.
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 21, 2019 10:15:41 GMT
I don't think that barnaby is "threatening" anybody, but MM is quite entitled to post their POV even if it is very much a minority one on here. (rather more so than outside the forum, I would say) Yes these are fevered times, but can we all calm down a bit please
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 7:31:51 GMT
Small correction - apparently it's Walker & Galloway, not Williamson MP MP. I am earnestly hoping that this seals Walker's fate. David is absolutely right in what he says above. Your threatening tone sums up why I simply don't trust you. don't be so silly. It's not a threat and it's actually deeply concerning why left wing members like Barnaby feel this way
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 22, 2019 8:17:58 GMT
Your threatening tone sums up why I simply don't trust you. don't be so silly. It's not a threat and it's actually deeply concerning why left wing members like Barnaby feel this way I don't agree. I have my concerns, but they differ.
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 22, 2019 11:15:56 GMT
It depends where the lines are drawn. I don't have any time for conspiracy theorists or holocaust deniers. As you know. But when people like Margaret Hodge labels people as anti-semitic for disagreeing with her that's another matter. It's got to the stage where any mildly critical statement is met by a threat of being reported to compliance. Why do you think so few of the complaints made have come to anything.
I'm not going to change my view that the approach of the JLM has been very damaging and I have no sympathy with their demands. Chakrabati's report got the balance right in my view
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