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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 21, 2015 13:15:31 GMT
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 21, 2015 16:06:23 GMT
This is going to be very bad.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 21, 2015 19:19:59 GMT
This is going to be very bad. There's a grim irony that, as the religious reactionary element of the FN has diminshed, it finds itself opposed by religious reactionaries. |
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Post by iainbhx on Mar 21, 2015 22:28:32 GMT
This is going to be very bad. There's a grim irony that, as the religious reactionary element of the FN has diminshed, it finds itself opposed by religious reactionaries. But they have a pro-diversity agenda, the BBC said so |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 22, 2015 22:12:53 GMT
BBC say that exit polls show the UMP top, FN second and PS third. The PS bounce appears to have not translated when it mattered.
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Post by neilm on Mar 23, 2015 19:25:44 GMT
Have we got a map of results? My dad is away so my usual source of French news (who also translates it for me) isn't able to help.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 23, 2015 19:33:03 GMT
Have we got a map of results? My dad is away so my usual source of French news (who also translates it for me) isn't able to help. Not great but this will help: www.lemonde.fr/carte-departements/ |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 23, 2015 19:35:19 GMT
The FN results in the Aisne are phenomenal. I can't find a canton where they drop below 30%.
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Post by myth11 on Mar 23, 2015 20:32:11 GMT
The FN results in the Aisne are phenomenal. I can't find a canton where they drop below 30%. if you listen to our media you would think the fn has had really bad results |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Mar 23, 2015 20:36:03 GMT
Laon-2. Where they finished top, but with 'only' 29.67%. Not sure if the Poma 2000 is in Laon-1 or Laon-2.
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Post by myth11 on Mar 23, 2015 21:01:44 GMT
i wonder if we will ever have a 50/50 male/female system
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 21:29:03 GMT
i wonder if we will ever have a 50/50 male/female system Perish the thought. {shudders} |
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 23, 2015 23:02:13 GMT
i wonder if we will ever have a 50/50 male/female system Your point being? |
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Post by Ben Walker on Mar 24, 2015 2:28:49 GMT
 Results mapped (taken before Pas-de-Calais declared). Doesn't differentiate those won outright and those going to the second round. |
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Post by Ben Walker on Mar 24, 2015 2:43:21 GMT
Also this infographic might be of interest... Candidates elected in the first round:Right & Centre Parties - 110 Left & Extreme Left - 32 National Front - 4 Other Parties - 3 My crude translations:Élus des le premier tour / elected in the first roundX en ballottage / X no. of candidates who'll be allowed to stand in the second round
Éliminés / candidates eliminated from the second round Whilst no FN supporter, I'm fascinated by their rise. It'll be interesting to see whether there'll be a strong tactical vote against them this Sunday. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 24, 2015 2:56:24 GMT
There are more than just a few cantons that might have been salvageable for the Left but where there is no Left candidate in the runoff because of disunity. A particularly good example is in one of the Le Havre cantons where PS and PCF candidate polled just over 20% each... urgh.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 24, 2015 7:19:28 GMT
There are more than just a few cantons that might have been salvageable for the Left but where there is no Left candidate in the runoff because of disunity. A particularly good example is in one of the Le Havre cantons where PS and PCF candidate polled just over 20% each... urgh. Ah, the Norman ports and their love of communism. |
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Post by neilm on Mar 24, 2015 16:51:04 GMT
My father lives in a village in Manche. The FN only got 24% there as opposed to the regular right wing parties who got 46%. Having been there a fair bit, I'm surprised the FN, and to some extent the more leftist parties, didn't do better.
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Post by myth11 on Mar 24, 2015 18:45:23 GMT
i wonder if we will ever have a 50/50 male/female system Your point being? In France i think one of the effects of this system inadvertently is to soften the image of the FN which makes them more electable |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 24, 2015 19:03:20 GMT
I'm not sure the FN having more visible women makes much of a difference. It has been suspected for decades that the female vote in France contributes disproportionately to Catholic, reactionary or general hard-right parties' vote tallies. Indeed, the Third Republic put off female suffrage for so long, not because the powers that be disagreed with the idea, but because they feared women were more likely to vote for clericalists and conservatives.
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