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Post by andrewteale on Mar 16, 2015 10:58:50 GMT
RHYL SOUTH WEST, Denbighshire county council; caused by the death of Labour councillor Margaret McCarroll at the age of 80.
Parliamentary and Assembly constituency: Vale of Clwyd
ONS Travel to Work Area: Rhyl and Denbigh
David Dear (LD)
Diana Hannam (Ind)
Melanie Jones (C)
Pete Prendergast (Lab)
David Wilmot (PC)
May 2012 result Lab 797/647 Ind 184/141 C 116/96 LD 71
May 2008 result Lab 587/532 C 267/266 BNP 138
June 2004 result Lab 599/563 Ind 355
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Post by froome on Mar 16, 2015 20:33:40 GMT
Sadly I'm not surprised that we don't have a candidate here, but I am very surprised that there is no UKIP candidate. I would have thought that Rhyl was potentially very fertile ground for them.
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Post by andrewteale on Mar 17, 2015 0:17:01 GMT
Having had a look at the census stats for the preview, this bit of Rhyl in particular should be good Kipper territory.
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Post by Tony Otim on Mar 17, 2015 9:37:55 GMT
I maybe wrong, but my impression is there has been a slight drop-off in the number of Kipper candidates generally in recent weeks. Maybe they're focussing more on the GE?
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Post by Tony Otim on Mar 19, 2015 9:16:03 GMT
RHYL SOUTH WEST, Denbighshire county council; caused by the death of Labour councillor Margaret McCarroll at the age of 80. Parliamentary and Assembly constituency: Vale of Clwyd ONS Travel to Work Area: Rhyl and Denbigh David Dear (LD) Diana Hannam (Ind) Melanie Jones (C) Pete Prendergast (Lab) David Wilmot (PC) May 2012 result Lab 797/647 Ind 184/141 C 116/96 LD 71 May 2008 result Lab 587/532 C 267/266 BNP 138 June 2004 result Lab 599/563 Ind 355 So the two independents last time were the incumbent councillors elected for Labour in 2008 and the Independent this time was a Conservative candidate in another Rhyl ward in 2012. Don't you just love Wales. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 19, 2015 17:01:02 GMT
It's a shame that they took the rusting ferris wheel down a few years ago. It was a magnificently Lynchian thing and added to the character of the town.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 17:39:00 GMT
Well it seems we have a candidate, which is a step forward.
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Post by Robert Waller on Mar 19, 2015 23:17:47 GMT
Anyone know if Rhyl is counting tonight?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 19, 2015 23:22:10 GMT
I assume yes, and the county council has a results page up (https://moderngov.denbighshire.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?ID=324&RPID=1589513&LLL=0) but there's nothing saying so directly.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 19, 2015 23:27:40 GMT
Now answered: Yes it did count, and it's just declared.
DENBIGHSHIRE Rhyl South West
Peter Prendergast (Labour) 474 (63.6%, +2.7)
Melanie Ann Jones (Conservative) 131 (17.6%, +8.7)
David John Wilmot (Plaid Cymru - The Party of Wales) 62 (8.3%)
Diana Hannam (Independent) 52 (7.0%)
David Malcolm Dear (Liberal Democrats) 26 (3.5%, -1.9)
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 19, 2015 23:30:59 GMT
It's a shame that they took the rusting ferris wheel down a few years ago. It was a magnificently Lynchian thing and added to the character of the town. The ghost ship was still up that way until recently as well. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 19, 2015 23:31:54 GMT
Oh no, you aren't saying that they've taken the ship away? That's genuinely upsetting news.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Mar 19, 2015 23:37:19 GMT
Now answered: Yes it did count, and it's just declared. DENBIGHSHIRE Rhyl South West Peter Prendergast (Labour) 474 (63.6%, +2.7) Melanie Ann Jones (Conservative) 131 (17.6%, +8.7) David John Wilmot (Plaid Cymru - The Party of Wales) 62 (8.3%) Diana Hannam (Independent) 52 (7.0%) David Malcolm Dear (Liberal Democrats) 26 (3.5%, -1.9)Oh dear. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 19, 2015 23:40:54 GMT
Oh no, you aren't saying that they've taken the ship away? That's genuinely upsetting news. A quick google shows that The Fun Ship does still exist after all! |
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 19, 2015 23:47:13 GMT
Excellent!
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Post by Sharon on Mar 19, 2015 23:47:51 GMT
Now answered: Yes it did count, and it's just declared. DENBIGHSHIRE Rhyl South West Peter Prendergast (Labour) 474 (63.6%, +2.7) Melanie Ann Jones (Conservative) 131 (17.6%, +8.7) David John Wilmot (Plaid Cymru - The Party of Wales) 62 (8.3%) Diana Hannam (Independent) 52 (7.0%) David Malcolm Dear (Liberal Democrats) 26 (3.5%, -1.9)Oh dear. *GROAN*  |
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Post by middleenglander on Mar 19, 2015 23:53:47 GMT
Denbighshire, Rhyl South West - Labour hold | Party | 2015 votes | 2015 share | since 2012 "top" | since 2012 "average" | since 2008 "top" | since 2008 "average" | | Labour | 474 | 63.6% | -4.6% | -4.4% | +4.5% | +5.6% | | Conservative | 131 | 17.6% | +7.7% | +7.6% | -9.3% | -10.1% | Plaid Cymru
| 62 | 8.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Independent | 52 | 7.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Liberal Democrat | 26 | 3.5% | -2.6% | -3.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Previous Independents |
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| -13.9% | -14.3% | | Total votes | 745 |
| 64% | 70% | 75% | 77% |
Swing Labour to Conservative ~6% since 2012 but Conservative to Labour ~7½% since 2008
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Post by middleenglander on Mar 19, 2015 23:58:39 GMT
I have checked and double checked my figure but although it is late I think the Britain Elects changes since 2012 are not right.
The Britain Elects figures regards the two Independents standing in 2012 as separate "parties" whereas my figures above regard them as being in the same "party".
In 2012 there were 1,134 valid ballot papers, giving a total of 2,268 potential valid votes. In practice there were 2,052 votes counted, or 90½% of the potential, a reasonably expected proportion. Taking the Independents as separate "parties" gives the "top" total votes as 1,309 whereas taking them as the same "party" gives the "top" total as 1,168. On "average" votes, separate "parties" would give a total of 1,203 whereas same "party" is 1,062, compared to an actual 1,134 valid ballot papers.
I consider taking them as the same "party" is the most realistic method in this particular case.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Mar 20, 2015 18:26:47 GMT
I'm surprised UKIP didn't have a candidate - isn't Rhyl supposed to be the Welsh equivalent of Clacton?
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 20, 2015 18:28:06 GMT
No, it's more like Hastings.
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