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Post by johnloony on Dec 2, 2016 17:10:35 GMT
May I present: Brafield and Breaston CC (71,754 electors)! All right, I realise the latter town is pronounced 'Bree-ston' and the former may well be 'Brayfield' among locals, but still... What has the pronunciation got to do with anything? The quasi-fractal squigglyness is drastic enough anyway.
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Post by Foggy on Dec 2, 2016 17:13:51 GMT
May I present: Brafield and Breaston CC (71,754 electors)! All right, I realise the latter town is pronounced 'Bree-ston' and the former may well be 'Brayfield' among locals, but still... What has the pronunciation got to do with anything? The quasi-fractal squigglyness is drastic enough anyway. Ah, your resistance to the lure of lady lumps has given you such an innocent mind at times.
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Post by An Sionnach Flannbhuí on Dec 8, 2016 22:57:35 GMT
" Last of the Summer Wine CC. The Commissioners were impressed by the road and rail links in the constituency, but particularly by the frequent downhill bathtub service from Holmfirth." Reeves, Mortimer and Lucas, if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Dec 8, 2016 23:22:20 GMT
" Last of the Summer Wine CC. The Commissioners were impressed by the road and rail links in the constituency, but particularly by the frequent downhill bathtub service from Holmfirth." Reeves, Mortimer and Lucas, if I'm not mistaken. ... Personally I don't see what's wrong with the real life Colne Valley CC.
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Post by Foggy on Feb 8, 2017 22:56:09 GMT
Using the " logic [ sic]" of johnloony, I propose a radical version of a potential 'Bristol Central BC':
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Feb 8, 2017 23:44:15 GMT
Recent there have been proposals (suggestions) made about expanding the size of the Welsh Assembly, which is currently at 60 members. I decided to attempt to draw up hypothetical boundaries for a 100 member assembly with 50 constituencies. Here is my attempt (obviously unfinished, that and Boundary Assistant won't allow for more than 29 constituencies at a time, so I'd have to create another project anyway): Rules I used: Total Electorate: 2,181,841 Ynys Mon electorate: 49,287 (Left seperate as I couldn't (be bothered to) devise any elegant way to split it) rWales electorate: 2,132,554 Quota: 43,521 Tolerance 10%: Upper: 47,873 Lower: 39,168 I'm sure some of these would qualify as Pitchfork Bait...
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Post by Foggy on Feb 9, 2017 0:25:57 GMT
Recently there have been proposals (suggestions) made about expanding the size of the Welsh Assembly, which is currently at 60 members. I decided to attempt to draw up hypothetical boundaries for a 100 member assembly with 50 constituencies. Here is my attempt (obviously unfinished, that and Boundary Assistant won't allow for more than 29 constituencies at a time, so I'd have to create another project anyway): On the zombie review numbers, I managed to manipulate the site (I hope for the sake of kevinlarkin that I didn't break it!) into thinking there were more than 30 seats in Wales. The cookies for that are on my previous laptop. When I have been coming up with crude and quick attempts at a 650-seat Commons under the current figures, I've done what you did and made two separate plans for each half-region. This topic could be worthy of a thread in itself, if the Assembly decides to retain AMS and makes the politically... courageous decision to increase its size to 100 members.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 20:08:20 GMT
"Devonwall" mad, bad and dangerous....
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Post by Foggy on Feb 12, 2017 20:16:22 GMT
In the spirit of the Northern Ireland Assembly electoral system being an overly complicated game of under-nominations, here's a start on 90 sensible single member constituencies for Northern Ireland. The quota is 13,815. As the quota is small in relation to the ward sizes, let's have a 15% tolerance for 11,743 to 15,887. There are a few justifications for STV which Malta, Tasmania and the island of Ireland all meet: 1) being a relatively small jurisdiction in terms of both population and area; 2) having a generous elector-to-seat ratio; and 3) having that particular system ingrained into a jurisdiction's political culture. The last criterion may be a little unfair, since a new system has to start somewhere before becoming embedded. In Northern Ireland there is the additional reasoning of a need for cross-community representation. On the other hand, FPTP with only 18 seats at Westminster elections hasn't stopped the DUP, Sinn Féin and SDLP all having continued representation for decades, with occasional successes for the Alliance, UUP and independent Unionists (including the now-defunct UKUP). Sometimes that's a result of tactical standing aside, though, which is a form of under-nomination in a way. We mustn't forget that under-nomination is not an unknown phenomenon in multi-member FPTP elections, but it does seem to have become particularly chronic at the current snap election. I wouldn't go for a move straight to pure FPTP, but the only parties that would really suffer would be the likes of the Greens and PBP. Most on here probably wouldn't shed a tear for both of those, and I can't see any kind of list system meeting with much support either. With a quota that small, I'm not sure that local authority wards are even the best building blocks for the constituencies.
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Post by Foggy on Feb 12, 2017 20:30:41 GMT
"Devonwall" mad, bad and dangerous.... It is none of those things. Furthermore, since 'Bideford, Bude and Launceston' is going to be a real constituency rather than a "fantasy" one at the next general election, I'm not sure what your comment is doing in this particular thread.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 20:36:06 GMT
"Devonwall" mad, bad and dangerous.... It is none of those things. Furthermore, since 'Bideford, Bude and Launceston' is going to be a real constituency rather than a "fantasy" one at the next general election, I'm not sure what your comment is doing in this particular thread. I know, but it really is the sort that must have been devised by fantasists...
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Post by piperdave on Feb 12, 2017 22:26:04 GMT
I can't make my fantasy constituency with Boundary Assistant. It won't let me cross European constituency boundaries.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 8:11:18 GMT
I can't make my fantasy constituency with Boundary Assistant. It won't let me cross European constituency boundaries. Crossborder Berwick?
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Feb 13, 2017 8:27:29 GMT
I can't make my fantasy constituency with Boundary Assistant. It won't let me cross European constituency boundaries. Crossborder Berwick? Darien Central?
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Feb 13, 2017 14:38:18 GMT
Following on from my previous submission, I've actually decided to finish off my 100 seat/50 constituency plan for the Welsh Assembly. Content Warning: May Contain Pitchfork BaitNorth Wales, not much change here. South Wales Part 1. A few new seats and some tweaks to previous attempts. South Wales Part 2. As previously mentioned, limitations with boundary assistant necessitate the creation of a second project. A few boundaries from the previous project have been re-created to provide some form of a guideline. And no, I do no know what happened with the Llantrisant and Mid Glamorgan Vale seat, just try not to look too closely at it. Bonus: An attempt at guessing notional results for the 2016 Assembly elections on these boundaries: (The maps were crudely compiled together in MS paint, so do excuse the artifacts...)As an aside on this one, for the seat labeled "Denbigh", whilst I have the notional results down here as Labour, I suspect it may very well have gone Conservative instead; the absence of Maelor no doubt would help Labour (though its presence in the Wrexham seat presents its own issues), but I'm not altogether sure about what effect including a chunk of central Denbighshire would have on results. I also have similar reserves about one of the Cardiff, and Vale of Glamorgan seats too.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 13, 2017 14:50:36 GMT
I see you've gerrymandered Vale of Glamorgan good and proper.
I would have Denbigh as notionally Tory on those boundaries - don't think there's enough Labour votes in Ruabon to do it.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Feb 13, 2017 15:34:09 GMT
I see you've gerrymandered Vale of Glamorgan good and proper. The gerrymander job is wholly unintentional, I assure you. Just blame my unfamiliarity with the South Wales area. I've double checked and have confirmed that I've also included Rhosllannerchrugog in the Denbigh seat (unless you're including it too when you mention Ruabon), and to cut a long story short, the tendency for people in North Wales to elect independents in local elections makes it slightly harder to ascertain the partisan lean of certain areas. For me this seat is a tossup, as insofar as I can tell, the Wrexham components outstrip the Denbighshire components in terms of population (and presumably electorate)...I suppose if so long as Rhosllannerchrugog, Ruabon & co. manage to outvote Denbigh and Ruthin, maybe the seat could go in the red column...? Don't know how much of that made any sense, but suffice to say I just made a wild guess at it, otherwise I'd be more or less inclinde to agree with your assessment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 16:45:34 GMT
Where are you hosting the pictures? Either IKEA's wi-fi is blocking them or the upload has borked
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 13, 2017 16:48:28 GMT
Where are you hosting the pictures? Either IKEA's wi-fi is blocking them or the upload has borked The verb to bork is a goodie.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Feb 13, 2017 16:56:41 GMT
Where are you hosting the pictures? Either IKEA's wi-fi is blocking them or the upload has borked I typically use Imgur. I've opened up a private browsing window to check and I can still see them there, so it's probably at your end. At one point I did actually have a Photobucket account, but the login details I had for that place are now lost to the mists of time.
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