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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Jan 8, 2020 12:26:29 GMT
MPs with alliterative names elected in 2019: Adam Afriyie Ben Bradley Ben Bradshaw Bob Blackman Chris Clarkson Christopher Chope Claire Coutinho David Davis David Davies Dave Doogan David Duguid Dehenna Davidson Harriet Harmann Helen Hayes Kwasi Kwarteng Mark Menzies Maria Miller Rachel Reeves Selaine Saxby Tom Tugendhat Valerie Vaz William Wragg Colin Clark, David Drew and Frank Field all lost their seats.
Only alliterative has ever made it to be Prime Minister, George Grenville from 1763-1765.
I think we are overdue for another, though it may be a while as I see no likely Prime Ministers on that list.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 12:27:14 GMT
MPs with alliterative names elected in 2019: Adam Afriyie Ben Bradley Ben Bradshaw Bob Blackman Chris Clarkson Christopher Chope Claire Coutinho David Davis David Davies Dave Doogan David Duguid Dehenna Davidson Harriet Harmann Helen Hayes Kwasi Kwarteng Mark Menzies Maria Miller Rachel Reeves Selaine Saxby Tom Tugendhat Valerie Vaz William Wragg Colin Clark, David Drew and Frank Field all lost their seats.
Only alliterative has ever made it to be Prime Minister, George Grenville from 1763-1765.
I think we are overdue for another, though it may be a while as I see no likely Prime Ministers on that list.
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It's a shame Jo Johnson retired. Maybe George Galloway can make a return.
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Post by yellowperil on Jan 8, 2020 13:54:10 GMT
Only alliterative has ever made it to be Prime Minister, George Grenville from 1763-1765.
I think we are overdue for another, though it may be a while as I see no likely Prime Ministers on that list. closely fpllowed by 👽
It's a shame Jo Johnson retired. Maybe George Galloway can make a return. No! Not even for that cause can we have GG back. Not even in jest. I don't think all of the names on CE's list are properly alliterative but Harriet Harman has to be the best ( in that sense only, I hasten to add) followed by KK.
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Post by yellowperil on Jan 8, 2020 14:16:11 GMT
I also have a view that the PM of the UK alternatives between flamboyant characters and sober characters. Flamboyant : Cameron, Blair, Thatcher, Wilson *2, Macmillan, Churchill Sober : Brown, Major, Callaghan, Heath (not sure here), Douglas Home, Attlee, Chamberlain Not sure about Eden. Update: Flamboyant : Johnson, Cameron, Blair, Thatcher, Wilson *2, Macmillan, Churchill Sober : May, Brown, Major, Callaghan, Heath (not sure here), Douglas Home, Attlee, Chamberlain I think the uncertainty with on or two is that nobody's persona is totally fixed - maybe one or two are "inclined towards being flamboyant" or "occasionally sober"! - it is an interesting observation though and particularly when they so nearly always alternate, as though a few years of one kind has us yearning for the other. Your latest pairing of May/ Johnson exemplifies that so well. We will definitely need a sobersides to succeed Johnson, ( Starmer could have been made for the role).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 14:20:50 GMT
It's a shame Jo Johnson retired. Maybe George Galloway can make a return. No! Not even for that cause can we have GG back. Not even in jest. I don't think all of the names on CE's list are properly alliterative but Harriet Harman has to be the best ( in that sense only, I hasten to add) followed by KK. I'm a big fan of Kwasi Kwarteng - we've both been on University Challenge.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 15:45:46 GMT
Update: Flamboyant : Johnson, Cameron, Blair, Thatcher, Wilson *2, Macmillan, Churchill Sober : May, Brown, Major, Callaghan, Heath (not sure here), Douglas Home, Attlee, Chamberlain I think the uncertainty with on or two is that nobody's persona is totally fixed - maybe one or two are "inclined towards being flamboyant" or "occasionally sober"! - it is an interesting observation though and particularly when they so nearly always alternate, as though a few years of one kind has us yearning for the other. Your latest pairing of May/ Johnson exemplifies that so well. We will definitely need a sobersides to succeed Johnson, ( Starmer could have been made for the role). Which category would PM Osborne have fallen into?
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 8, 2020 16:41:40 GMT
I think the uncertainty with on or two is that nobody's persona is totally fixed - maybe one or two are "inclined towards being flamboyant" or "occasionally sober"! - it is an interesting observation though and particularly when they so nearly always alternate, as though a few years of one kind has us yearning for the other. Your latest pairing of May/ Johnson exemplifies that so well. We will definitely need a sobersides to succeed Johnson, ( Starmer could have been made for the role). Which category would PM Osborne have fallen into? Depends how much Charlie he had snorted
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 8, 2020 16:43:58 GMT
Which category would PM Osborne have fallen into? Depends how much Charlie he had snorted would you like to borrow the Forum's best available "Allegedly"?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 15:42:26 GMT
The Tories increased their vote share in every island constituency and now hold 2/4.
Previously they held Anglesey from 1979—1987 and the Isle of Wight from 1987 to 1997 and have held it since 2001.
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Post by greenchristian on Jan 9, 2020 16:37:40 GMT
The Tories increased their vote share in every island constituency and now hold 2/4. Previously they held Anglesey from 1979—1987 and the Isle of Wight from 1987 to 1997 and have held it since 2001. Do the two Portsmouth seats not count as island constituencies, then?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 16:40:31 GMT
The Tories increased their vote share in every island constituency and now hold 2/4. Previously they held Anglesey from 1979—1987 and the Isle of Wight from 1987 to 1997 and have held it since 2001. Do the two Portsmouth seats not count as island constituencies, then? No.
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Post by greenchristian on Jan 9, 2020 16:43:32 GMT
Do the two Portsmouth seats not count as island constituencies, then? No. But they're on an actual island off the coast of Great Britain.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 16:48:35 GMT
But they're on an actual island off the coast of Great Britain. But connected by road 🤔
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 9, 2020 16:50:35 GMT
But they're on an actual island off the coast of Great Britain. But connected by road 🤔 So is Anglesey....
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 9, 2020 18:42:50 GMT
But they're on an actual island off the coast of Great Britain. About half of Portsmouth North is on the mainland
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 9, 2020 21:44:10 GMT
Good Woden! That is a hell of a bridge. Does it go the short way overland or round the coast in the sea? Let's stop farting about over this like 6th Formers on a third can of Red Bull. It is just silly. Some seats are 'Island Seats' and you are constantly aware of being an islander with an island climate and an insular way of life with the sea a constant presence; exemplars being Unst, Barra, Mull, IOM. Proper islands with an island way of life. Skye still has that characteristic despite being quite close to the mainland in part and connected by a bridge. Sheppey does up to a point despite the bridge. Portsea Island, Hayling Island and Canvey island do not. If you can live a life that is no different at all to being on the mainland and move freely without even noticing that you are on or off the island then it is quite different and those are not island seats.
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Post by hullenedge on Jan 13, 2020 15:39:10 GMT
Thread from Rob Ford:-
Labour piling up the votes where they don't need them.
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 13, 2020 15:42:12 GMT
Thread from Rob Ford:- Labour piling up the votes where they don't need them. The precise opposite to 2005. However, that also indicates volatility.
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Post by ccoleman on Jan 13, 2020 16:48:28 GMT
Thread from Rob Ford:- Labour piling up the votes where they don't need them. Labour should have backed electoral reform when they had the chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 17:48:12 GMT
Thread from Rob Ford:- Labour piling up the votes where they don't need them. The precise opposite to 2005. However, that also indicates volatility. But Labour benefits the most from the current system - winning a big majority in 2005 with support from only 21% of the electorate.
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