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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 7, 2023 22:05:59 GMT
8th October. Strap in.
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Post by Toylyyev on Sept 8, 2023 11:39:03 GMT
Results from the communal elections held on 11 June
| Vote shares | List# | Mandate#
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CSV | 26.53% (-5.58) | 45/56 | 193 (-16)
LSAP | 21.86% (-3.85) | 39/56 | 155 (0)
DP | 19.75% (+3.02) | 47/56 | 134 (+26)
déi gréng | 11.59% (-2.72) | 36/56 | 64 (-13)
PIRATEN | 3.4% (+2.29) | 13/56 | 12 (+9)
ADR | 2.69% (+.56) | 10/56 | 9 (+5)
déi Lénk | 2.23% (-.9) | 6/56 | 5 (-3)
KPL | .38% (-.46) | 3/56 | 1 (-1)
Déi Konservativ | .54% (+.44) | 2/56 |
Mir d'Vollek | .15% | 1/56 |
Local Lists | 10.88% (+7.05) | | 118 (+84)
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Sums | 691 (+91)
Municipalities using proportional representation, weighted theoretical percentages method from the elections site. elections.public.lu/en/elections-communales/2023/resultats.htmlEdit (9/9): Vote share differences corrected to account for municipalities moving from relative majority to proportional representation after the 2017 vote. This is also the reason for the seat increase in the table. Actually this assumes that is why the changes displayed on the elections site didn't match the differences between the two election results. Edit (11/9): Added the results for smaller parties introduced below by Devil Wincarnate that weren't listed on the site and the number of lists each party stood. These numbers might be a wee bit tentative as i had to write out the results from the muncipality pages by hand. Mir d'Vollek (We the people) wikipedia entry says: "It was founded in October 2021 [...] in the context of the protests of vaccine opponents". |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 10, 2023 22:31:21 GMT
I have been in Luxembourg recently and the posters are already up in several towns. But anyway, I am going to channel Sibboleth and do a quick and not too serious guide to the parties. The order is the numerical order on the ballot papers. LSAP- more like Labour than the neighbouring PS incarnations, LSAP are the social democrats and have been a junior coalition partner for nearly 20 years uninterrupted, under two different senior partners. DP- the current driving force of government under PM Xavier Bettel. Allegedly Luxembourg's liberals and probably best seen as a mix of VVD and D66. Dei Greng- the Greens. The third coalition partner. That's about it. CSV- Christian Democrats. Traditionally the party of power, and even now bigger than the others by far. Best known as the fief of Jean-Claude Juncker. Only two PMs since the war have not been from the CSV. Favourites to come out on top again, but numbers could keep them out of power again. Dei Lenk- the Left. Basically Eurocommunist and social movement types. ADR- basically a mix of hard-right and pro-Luxembourgish language activists. Imagine the CSU if they were massively keen on Bavarian dialect. Pirates. As expected but possibly a bit of a cult around a bloke named Sven Clement, once convicted of leaking confidential data. Fokus. A dustbin party made up of renegades from the CSV, DP and Greens. Managerialists of the type who like to talk about evidence-based policy until the evidence proves them wrong and they gloss over it. Volt-as above, but for people who think Juncker is a bit eurosceptic. Communist Party. Old-school Marxoids. Basically limited to the industrial belt in the south. Fraaiheet. A split from the ADR. Not much clue really, but they seem to be a vanity exercise. Led by a minor celebrity called Roy Reding. Dei Konservativ. Basically the same but led by a bloke thrown out of the ADR. Realistically, the first four are the only likely ones to join a government. Polling so far doesn't seem to have asked about several of the others. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 11, 2023 10:22:09 GMT
ADR- ... pro-Luxembourgish language activists. Imagine the CSU if they were massively keen on Bavarian dialect. Oh, haven't been aware of that. So for the MoselFranconian dialect and against the use of French? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 11, 2023 10:52:28 GMT
ADR- ... pro-Luxembourgish language activists. Imagine the CSU if they were massively keen on Bavarian dialect. Oh, haven't been aware of that. So for the MoselFranconian dialect and against the use of French? Not so much against the use of French but against attempts to downgrade Luxembourgish and essentially make the country another Francophone one. It sounds bizarre to outsiders but there are people who lobby for the removal of the national language from public life. |
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Post by Toylyyev on Sept 11, 2023 14:32:23 GMT
[...] Pirates. As expected but possibly a bit of a cult around a bloke named Sven Clement, once convicted of leaking confidential data. [...]
The Hare Krishna pitch is quite common in politics here and it has ever been thus. The likely reason for it can be found in the electoral law, where a candidate has to collect personal votes to outcompete the others in his party list. And new ones like the Pirates tend to achieve their first seats via personal votes. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Specimen_Elections_legislatives_Luxembourg_2013.pngThere was an attempt to restrict voting to lists a while ago that most parties did like and most voters didn't if memory serves. |
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Post by Foggy on Sept 11, 2023 21:42:16 GMT
Dei Greng- the Greens. The third coalition partner. That's about it. Ah, good to see them standing in solidarity with their Irish counterparts there. |
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Post by Toylyyev on Sept 12, 2023 13:14:27 GMT
Dei Greng- the Greens. The third coalition partner. That's about it. Ah, good to see them standing in solidarity with their Irish counterparts there. Sheesh, one i didn't know gaelicgameseurope.com/clubs/luxembourg/gsc-luxembourg/No canvassing at the doorstep here though, bar Jehovah's Witnesses. Just leaflets and you get calls every few months for polls. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 12, 2023 14:56:19 GMT
Ah, good to see them standing in solidarity with their Irish counterparts there. you get calls every few months for polls. Ah, i see - statistically not so unlikely in a country like Luxembourg. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 8, 2023 15:03:46 GMT
Counting is already going on, but with a complicated system will take longer.
Daily "Luxemburger Wort" and TeleVision-channel "RTL" present only 1 counted municipality; yet, EuropeElects claims to have the results of 40%:
- CSV stagnant (will certainly fall in the more urban 60%)
- LSAP ahead of DP
- Greens more than halved
- surprisingly little gains for the Pirates
- small losses for TheLeft
- some inCrease for cons. ADL
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Post by markgoodair on Oct 8, 2023 21:06:05 GMT
The Greens have had their worst result since 1989 gaining only 8.6% .
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Post by andrea on Oct 8, 2023 21:22:56 GMT
Count finished Results here: elections.public.lu/fr.htmlChristian Social People's Party (CSV) 21 seats (=) Democracy Party (DP) 14 (+2) Socialist Workers (LSAP) 11 (+1) Alternative Democratic Reform (ADR) 5 (+1) Greens 5 (-5) Pirates 3 (+1) Left 2 (=) |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 8, 2023 21:26:41 GMT
Count finished Results here: elections.public.lu/fr.htmlChristian Social People's Party 21 seats (=) Democracy Party 14 (+2) Socialist Workers 11 (+1) Alternative Democratic Reform 5 (+1) Greens 5 (-5) Pirates 3 (+1) Left 2 (=) Not sure Bettel will try to form a 4partyCoalition - at least not, if CSV offers him an EU-position. |
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Post by maxque on Oct 9, 2023 14:52:33 GMT
Count finished Results here: elections.public.lu/fr.htmlChristian Social People's Party 21 seats (=) Democracy Party 14 (+2) Socialist Workers 11 (+1) Alternative Democratic Reform 5 (+1) Greens 5 (-5) Pirates 3 (+1) Left 2 (=) Not sure Bettel will try to form a 4partyCoalition - at least not, if CSV offers him an EU-position. Seems the main discussion right now is whether the next government is CSV-DP or CSV-LSAP. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 10, 2023 18:09:32 GMT
CSV-DP is first up. Bettel has said he is willing to serve in a government led by Luc Frieden. This will probably not take long to wrap up.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 3, 2023 11:49:40 GMT
Luc Frieden was sworn in on 17th November. It will be a CSV-DP coalition with Xavier Bettel as deputy. The government will hold 35 of the 60 seats.
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