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Post by jamesdoyle on May 3, 2024 13:08:23 GMT
Green gain Goring from Con
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Post by jamesdoyle on May 3, 2024 13:09:48 GMT
Lab gain Tarring from LDm. Totally expected, but still sad. End of an era.
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Post by batman on May 3, 2024 17:47:27 GMT
the Tories held Durrington (just), Offington & Salvington, the Greens gained Goring. All other seats won by Labour and not generally close.
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Post by lackeroftalent on May 5, 2024 19:56:34 GMT
After the 2024 election
Lab 27 Con 10 Grn 2
then this
so
Lab 24 Con 10 Worthing Community Independents 3 Grn 2
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Post by john07 on May 5, 2024 20:02:30 GMT
Bye bye. Don’t slam the door on your way out.
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Post by ColinJ on May 5, 2024 20:07:16 GMT
A very long personal statement. Generally, the longer the statement, the more unlikely anyone will bother to read it.
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Post by andrea on May 5, 2024 20:13:19 GMT
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Post by john07 on May 5, 2024 20:16:43 GMT
A very long personal statement. Generally, the longer the statement, the more unlikely anyone will bother to read it. You don’t need to read the detail, the absolute crap in the visible bit tells you all you need to know. No wonder Momentum is going down the pan if they put that idiot in charge.
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Post by matureleft on May 5, 2024 20:41:33 GMT
Carl Walker is the third resignation (named as one of those excluded from the shortlist for East Worthing and Shoreham). His own statement at the time (last year) indicated that he’d accepted that decision.
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Post by kevinf on May 5, 2024 21:33:08 GMT
I may be in a minority on the Labour side here, but I think it’s an appropriate time to pay credit to their role in turning Worthing Labour. And just to avoid any doubt, I think they are wrong to leave.
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Post by kevinf on May 6, 2024 15:03:38 GMT
Carl Walker is the third resignation (named as one of those excluded from the shortlist for East Worthing and Shoreham). His own statement at the time (last year) indicated that he’d accepted that decision. Yes, he’s recommitted himself to helping get the official Labour candidate, Becky Cooper, elected at the General.
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Post by matureleft on May 6, 2024 15:13:09 GMT
Carl Walker is the third resignation (named as one of those excluded from the shortlist for East Worthing and Shoreham). His own statement at the time (last year) indicated that he’d accepted that decision. Yes, he’s recommitted himself to helping get the official Labour candidate, Becky Cooper, elected at the General. He’s got to be careful that he (and his friends) don’t place Beccy in a difficult position. Since he’s no longer a member he can say and do what he likes but he mustn’t call for the defeat of another Labour candidate from within Beccy’s campaign.
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Post by batman on May 6, 2024 16:12:42 GMT
I suspect that Beccy Cooper will have to take steps to minimise any of these defectors' involvement in her campaign, or make it clear that she does not in any way endorse their position. It's good that they are not committed to seeing her fail but they have put themselves outside the tent now & their statements will not be welcomed by most of the rest of the Labour Group, although there are other members of it who remain and are on the Left.
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Post by kevinf on May 6, 2024 21:22:01 GMT
Those are fair comments.
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Post by maxque on May 17, 2024 15:53:34 GMT
I suspect that Beccy Cooper will have to take steps to minimise any of these defectors' involvement in her campaign, or make it clear that she does not in any way endorse their position. It's good that they are not committed to seeing her fail but they have put themselves outside the tent now & their statements will not be welcomed by most of the rest of the Labour Group, although there are other members of it who remain and are on the Left. It may not be enough. The NEC is probably salivating at the idea of getting rid of a left-wing candidate in a winnable seat to put yet another ideology-free obedient drone.
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on May 17, 2024 16:09:43 GMT
I suspect that Beccy Cooper will have to take steps to minimise any of these defectors' involvement in her campaign, or make it clear that she does not in any way endorse their position. It's good that they are not committed to seeing her fail but they have put themselves outside the tent now & their statements will not be welcomed by most of the rest of the Labour Group, although there are other members of it who remain and are on the Left. It may not be enough. The NEC is probably salivating at the idea of getting rid of a left-wing candidate in a winnable seat to put yet another ideology-free obedient drone.
MPs of all parties may talk ideology, but 99% + of them tow the party whip, whatever they talk. So in that sense they are all drones and always have been.
Whatever activists of any party with chips on their shoulder think, it really hasn't changed much.
The way current MPs talk may be blander but is there really any difference between bland towing the line and flamoyant towing the line, when the votes are added up? No.
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Post by batman on May 17, 2024 16:16:55 GMT
I suspect that Beccy Cooper will have to take steps to minimise any of these defectors' involvement in her campaign, or make it clear that she does not in any way endorse their position. It's good that they are not committed to seeing her fail but they have put themselves outside the tent now & their statements will not be welcomed by most of the rest of the Labour Group, although there are other members of it who remain and are on the Left. It may not be enough. The NEC is probably salivating at the idea of getting rid of a left-wing candidate in a winnable seat to put yet another ideology-free obedient drone. that's really not an accurate summary of the position at all.
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Post by maxque on May 17, 2024 16:17:24 GMT
Third: Lab 9 (+3), Con 3 (-3), Grn 1 (+1), LD 0 (-1)
Labour gain from Conservative in: Castle (confirms 2022 double election gain, by 304 votes) Northbrook (by 130 votes)
Green gain from Conservative in: Goring (by 714 votes)
Labour gain from Liberal Democrat in: Tarring (by 244 votes)
Close holds: Durrington (Con hold by 45 votes over Lab)
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Post by maxque on May 17, 2024 16:18:43 GMT
It may not be enough. The NEC is probably salivating at the idea of getting rid of a left-wing candidate in a winnable seat to put yet another ideology-free obedient drone.
MPs of all parties may talk ideology, but 99% + of them tow the party whip, whatever they talk. So in that sense they are all drones and always have been.
Whatever activists of any party with chips on their shoulder think, it really hasn't changed much.
The way current MPs talk may be blander but is there really any difference between bland towing the line and flamoyant towing the line, when the votes are added up? No.
This is more about any election that involves the PLP and the nominations for Starmer's replacement.
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