2023 Greek General Election

[Pete Whitehead]

May 23, 2023 11:58:06 GMT European Lefty said:

May 23, 2023 10:34:46 GMT The Bishop said:

It would be quite the comeback if they overtook Syriza next time round.

Combined with a possible revival for Scottish Labour, could we be seeing the demise of "Pasokification"?

Is it not arguable that we are seeing pasokification of different parties, with previously pasokified parties replacing them?

The term becomes too broad to be meaningful in that case. It becomes a floccinaucinihilipasokification

[minionofmidas]

May 23, 2023 13:54:37 GMT Georg Ebner said:

May 21, 2023 19:05:37 GMT minionofmidas said:

The handful badly translated Greek articles I've found make their leader sound more imbecile than actively rightist, but they're certainly not left in any way or form. Populist/NOTA vote I suppose.

No, Victory ("Nike") is - as its name suggests - proPutin-nationalists. Not sure, whether their economical position is more liberal ("libertarian") or socialist ("populist").

Yeah, makes sense.

[Georg Ebner]

The electoral district's deViations in national & european (italics) elections (measured at valid votes [has anyone found the % measured at the electorate and could send me them?]; apart from 2023 are missing GE 2004 and EP 2014&2019):








So already before this election SYRIZA had lost a lot in its former strongHolds of Athens&Attica.

[Georg Ebner]

With Mitsotakis Jr.'s centrism appealing to urbanites Greece is - like Portugal, with which it has several things in common - a place, where the infamous Global Trends have been rebuked.

[andrea]

Greeks in UK (3,721 who voted) voted as follows

ND 47.46
SYRIZA-PS 18.00
MERA25 10.48
KKE 10.07
PASOK-KINIMA ALLAGIS 6.90
ETHNIKI DIMIOURGIA 2.25
PLEFSI ELEFTHERIAS-ZOI KONSTANTOPOULOU 1.95

London consulate area (2,904 voters) was very ND (50%).
Communists strong in Birmingham area (18%)

[BossMan]

Κυριάκος Μητσοτάκης transliteratates as Kuriakos Metsotakes, so why is it written in Latin script as Kyriakos Mitsotakis? I appreciate the lack of a 'y' equivalent in Greek and that pronunciation of the upsilon in Kyriakos makes that sound but what is the reason for substituting 'i' for the eta in the surname?

[minionofmidas]

May 28, 2023 9:31:43 GMT BossMan said:

Κυριάκος Μητσοτάκης transliteratates as Kuriakos Metsotakes, so why is it written in Latin script as Kyriakos Mitsotakis? I appreciate the lack of a 'y' equivalent in Greek and that pronunciation of the upsilon in Kyriakos makes that sound but what is the reason for substituting 'i' for the eta in the surname?

Yes - it's Greek, not Ancient Greek and that letter is thus called ita. The only reason you might want to transliterate it ē is if you care more about reversibility than about readability or pronunciation. Which may be entirely legit depending on yr purpose, and at least one of the umpteen standard transliterations for Greek does that!
Y of course started life as υ in Greek loanwords in western texts, and its name in many western languages still reflects that.

[greenhert]

A snap election will be held next month since no party could form a coalition, even with the 50-seat bonus.

Is Greece going to end up like Bulgaria in this regard?

[iain]

May 29, 2023 9:49:28 GMT greenhert said:

A snap election will be held next month since no party could form a coalition, even with the 50-seat bonus.

Is Greece going to end up like Bulgaria in this regard?

There was no 50 seat bonus at the last election. A coalition could probably have been formed, but with the return of the bonus at the coming election, New Democracy had no interest in forming one.

[mattbewilson]

Can KKE get into double digits:

[Georg Ebner]

Updated version (i was too impatient to wait for the JuneElec.res.) of the elec.districts:
Majorities:

Trends (= deViations from national average):

[mattbewilson]

Uptick in support for smaller parties

[Devil Wincarnate]

Some of the Graun articles on this election are hilarious. Including one outraged piece that basically complains that people are voting for Mitsotakis purely because they think he's done a good job.

[Georg Ebner]

Pollster-perFormances:
- chronologically:

- best (=lowest deViation per polled party):

- last one of each company:

At least the exitPolls on electionEvening were not too bad.

[mattbewilson]

[aidypiez]

[andrea]

Result page
ekloges.ypes.gr/current/v/home/en/

43% counted

ND 40.39
Syrza 17.78
PASOK 12.78
Communists 7.23
Spartiates 4.77
Greek Solution 4.63
Niki 3.78
Course of Freedom 3.01
MeRA25 2.26

[minionofmidas]

Now at 68% and not much change. Zoe is at 3.08.

[andrea]

88% counted

ND 40.51& - 158 seats
Syrza 17.84 - 47 seats
PASOK 11.97% - 32 seats
Communists 7.6 - 20 seats
Spartans 4.71 - 13 seats
Greek Solution 4.49 - 12 seats
Niki 3.73 - 10 seats
Zoe Konstantopoulou 3.15 - 8 seats

[Georg Ebner]

All in except MeRA25 (=Mr.Varoufakis, Syriza's financeMinister).
As expected, momentum for Spartiates.