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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 17:22:57 GMT
Conor Burns has been suspended from parliament for a week
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on May 12, 2020 17:32:23 GMT
Conor Burns has been suspended from parliament for a week
Does he get Brownie points for social distancing from other MPs?
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Post by peterl on May 13, 2020 10:23:01 GMT
Some local backlash can be seen, with two letters to the local paper calling on Burns to resign already, one from a "lifelong Conservative supporter".
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Post by tonyhill on May 13, 2020 15:58:03 GMT
He won't though.
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Post by neilm on May 14, 2020 18:49:20 GMT
Some local backlash can be seen, with two letters to the local paper calling on Burns to resign already, one from a "lifelong Conservative supporter". Oh yes, I do love a lifelong supporter. I've not had one on the doorstep for a while.
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Post by tonyhill on May 19, 2020 6:35:38 GMT
At the risk of sounding like Harry Hayfield, it occurred to me to wonder whether any MPs might be bankrupted by fallout from the virus. Obviously most people run limited liability companies, but there will be some, particularly those involved with property, who may find themselves over-leveraged and who will have had to have provided personal guarantees to access initial capital. If the commercial property market tanks as badly as seems probable then they could be in trouble.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 19, 2020 8:19:56 GMT
I'd have thought it unlikely. Pretty much no Labour MP has any major second job in business now. The days when you could be a Tory MP in the late afternoon and evenings after running their business in the mornings have basically gone, so if MPs are involved it's as a non-exec director who turns up once in a while to attend meetings and nothing more. That wouldn't give them a lot of liability.
Note also how difficult it is to disqualify MPs due to bankruptcy. There's a reason why it's happened only once in 150 years. It now only applies if an MP is subject to a Bankruptcy Restrictions Order, and that is only given to bankrupts whose business practices were dishonest before their bankruptcy. If an MP's company fails because of the ordinary course of business, and results in their personal bankruptcy, it wouldn't cost them their seat.
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Post by tonyhill on May 19, 2020 9:39:14 GMT
Thank you David - I thought something like that might be the case. I was just trying to think of ways in which Johnson's majority might be whittled down and came up with that one!
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Post by timrollpickering on May 19, 2020 10:10:20 GMT
Thank you David - I thought something like that might be the case. I was just trying to think of ways in which Johnson's majority might be whittled down and came up with that one! The Friday (or was it Saturday that season?) Night Armistice tried this one in the Major years, going to various MPs to try to get them to give up some money. Clearly David was not on the production team to point out how the assumptions behind this sketch were bollocks.
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Post by WJ on May 23, 2020 6:45:36 GMT
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Post by mboy on May 23, 2020 7:39:10 GMT
Who did he assault? (Report doesn't say). If it's his partner he'll have to go. Some bloke in the pub and he'll probably weather it.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 7:43:20 GMT
Welsh Nationalist is violent, shocker!
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Post by timmullen1 on May 23, 2020 8:30:39 GMT
Who did he assault? (Report doesn't say). If it's his partner he'll have to go. Some books in the pub and he'll probably weather it. Doing a trawl of the Internet it seems even the police aren’t saying, just referring to “an incident”.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on May 23, 2020 12:38:07 GMT
Was arrested on Wednesday. If he'd assaulted someone in a pub I'd be amazed if it took the police this long to arrest him (remembering pubs have been closed for two months now(
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on May 23, 2020 13:06:16 GMT
Was arrested on Wednesday. If he'd assaulted someone in a pub I'd be amazed if it took the police this long to arrest him (remembering pubs have been closed for two months now( Perhaps they have lock-ins in the Wild West...
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Post by timmullen1 on May 23, 2020 13:06:34 GMT
Was arrested on Wednesday. If he'd assaulted someone in a pub I'd be amazed if it took the police this long to arrest him (remembering pubs have been closed for two months now( Was arrested at home according to Wales Online, but doesn’t say whether the alleged offence was committed there or elsewhere, or the police took the statement of the complainant before arresting him resulting in a delay between alleged offence and arrest.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on May 23, 2020 13:30:53 GMT
Who did he assault? (Report doesn't say). If it's his partner he'll have to go. Some bloke in the pub and he'll probably weather it. There's also the question of what exactly is meant by "assault", as that term covers a wide range of types of incident. It could be that he allegedly spat at someone (not stylish, but honestly that would be one for the Stasi Watch thread), or he could have done the full Gwilym Euros Roberts. It could even be a political opponent making up a "he pinched my bum" story, although I hope that the police would be able to spot when they're being used like that. We won't know for quite some time, if ever – after all, if he's agreed to be bailed, it is likely that he denies any wrongdoing, and then the chances of the CPS deciding that going ahead would not be in the public interest etc are reasonably high.
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Post by timmullen1 on May 23, 2020 13:45:15 GMT
Who did he assault? (Report doesn't say). If it's his partner he'll have to go. Some bloke in the pub and he'll probably weather it. There's also the question of what exactly is meant by "assault", as that term covers a wide range of types of incident. It could be that he allegedly spat at someone (not stylish, but honestly that would be one for the Stasi Watch thread), or he could have done the full Gwilym Euros Roberts. It could even be a political opponent making up a "he pinched my bum" story, although I hope that the police would be able to spot when they're being used like that. We won't know for quite some time, if ever – after all, if he's agreed to be bailed, it is likely that he denies any wrongdoing, and then the chances of the CPS deciding that going ahead would not be in the public interest etc are reasonably high. How can he not agree to be bailed? If the police haven’t got the go-ahead from the CPS to charge him there and then, and it is clear that investigations are ongoing (collecting more witness statements, reviewing CCTV, awaiting forensic results?) he’s hardly likely to say “no, I refuse to be bailed, I demand to be locked up in prison for days, weeks, possibly months, until the CPS decide whether to charge me”.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on May 23, 2020 13:50:31 GMT
There's also the question of what exactly is meant by "assault", as that term covers a wide range of types of incident. It could be that he allegedly spat at someone (not stylish, but honestly that would be one for the Stasi Watch thread), or he could have done the full Gwilym Euros Roberts. It could even be a political opponent making up a "he pinched my bum" story, although I hope that the police would be able to spot when they're being used like that. We won't know for quite some time, if ever – after all, if he's agreed to be bailed, it is likely that he denies any wrongdoing, and then the chances of the CPS deciding that going ahead would not be in the public interest etc are reasonably high. How can he not agree to be bailed? If the police haven’t got the go-ahead from the CPS to charge him there and then, and it is clear that investigations are ongoing (collecting more witness statements, reviewing CCTV, awaiting forensic results?) he’s hardly likely to say “no, I refuse to be bailed, I demand to be locked up in prison for days, weeks, possibly months, until the CPS decide whether to charge me”. Well, if he did not deny wrongdoing, he would likely have been offered a caution instead. But we'll see what happens. Or maybe not...
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Post by timmullen1 on May 23, 2020 14:02:06 GMT
How can he not agree to be bailed? If the police haven’t got the go-ahead from the CPS to charge him there and then, and it is clear that investigations are ongoing (collecting more witness statements, reviewing CCTV, awaiting forensic results?) he’s hardly likely to say “no, I refuse to be bailed, I demand to be locked up in prison for days, weeks, possibly months, until the CPS decide whether to charge me”. Well, if he did not deny wrongdoing, he would likely have been offered a caution instead. But we'll see what happens. Or maybe not... The offer of a caution would only be made on the recommendation of the CPS upon the submission of a completed case file. It’s clear that he’s been arrested to allow them to conduct a recorded interview under caution and to have his own legal representation as part of a proper investigation. The police have confirmed that the investigation is ongoing so clearly no file has yet gone to the CPS for a decision on prosecution.
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