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Post by greatkingrat on Apr 12, 2017 7:35:57 GMT
The range for my suggestions is a low of -30% (Bronglais ward) to +28% (Cardigan, Rural ward). The existing wards have a range of -39% (Cardigan, Teifi) to a high of +45% (Llansantffraed) so I think I reduced the variance very nicely indeed. The biggest ward is still twice the smallest pretty mych, improved but still democratically unacceptable. Actually it isn't, Harry's proposals have similar variance to those proposed by the Commission when they reviewed neighbouring councils Gwynedd - high Pentir 1700 (+32%), low Corris & Mawddwy 917 (-29%) Carmarthenshire - high Kidwelly & Trimsaran 4659 (2 seats) (+24%), low Carmarthen Town South 2945 (2 seats) (-22%) Pembrokeshire - high Llanddewi Velfrey & Lampeter Velfrey 2029 (+24%), low Wiston & New Moat 1175(-28%)
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 28, 2017 20:38:11 GMT
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Post by evergreenadam on Apr 29, 2017 3:55:30 GMT
The way I look at the map is that the railway line is pointing "north", so the two Bensham Manor wards would be better named North and South rather than West and East. This is one suggestion I will make when I do my proper submission. Also, they should keep the names Coulsdon West and Coulsdon East. Most of the places where two-member wards are suggested is where they are appropriate, but the cluster in the Thornton Heath area is a bit squagglious and I'm not sure what the reasoning is. As far as marginality is concerned, I am beginning to think that the ward proposed for my own area (Addiscombe West & Park Hill) could be the most marginal (in terms of the 2014 results). In 2014, Addiscombe had a Labour majority of c.400 and Fairfield had a Conservative majority of c.700, BUT - according to the tallying I did at the count -virtually all of Labour's majority in Addiscome is concentrated in the western bit (the three eastern polling districts would have been split between the two parties). The Park Hill area is the middle bit of Fairfield ward, and is probably about average for Fairfield ward as a whole (the east end of Fairfield ward is much more Conservative and the west end is the town centre). The proposed Central ward is an unknown quantity because it currently probably has low turnouts, rapid turnover of population, and - in the next few years - lots of new developments. Addiscombe East would probably be Conservative (comfortable but not huge majority). Waddon would be safer for Labour. The northern extension of Waddon ward to include the new residential development around Whitestone Way and Cornersville Way seems sensible as it was isolated in the far south of Broad Green ward before with a polling station a long way to the north. However inclusion of the gasholders on Factory Lane and the isolated residential enclave around Cornwall Road seems like stretching Waddon ward too far to the north. The ward boundary between Broad Green and Waddon wards should instead follow the Tramlink line between Waddon Marsh Tramlink stop and the Roman Way flyover.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 19:16:25 GMT
By all accounts these will be the suggestions for Preston :
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 7:17:18 GMT
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Post by lancastrian on May 20, 2017 19:20:38 GMT
So those are the official council proposals passed by the Labour majority? Why do both proposals include that hideous Tulketh ward?
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 14, 2017 17:38:26 GMT
I've started looking at numbers for the Scarborough ward review. I've got two 2-member wards pushed against the boundary of the borough each with a quota of 1.5. Grrr.
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Post by woollyliberal on Jun 17, 2017 20:31:33 GMT
When is the Boundary Commission expected to publish it's next set of plans?
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Post by Foggy on Jun 17, 2017 20:38:24 GMT
When is the Boundary Commission expected to publish its next set of plans? Eh – for local government? Are you sure you've got the right thread?!?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 17, 2017 20:38:55 GMT
Do you mean the Parliamentary Boundary Commissions? The PBCE will be revising its recommendations in the autumn.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 18, 2017 2:29:55 GMT
The LGBCE have postponed the current stage for Scarborough by one month due to the general election getting in the way. The "request for proposals" stage will start on 30th June with the publication of the current and 2023 forecast electorate. If other reviews are in progress I wouldn't be surprised if they've been bumped back a bit as well.
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Post by woollyliberal on Jun 18, 2017 7:32:42 GMT
When is the Boundary Commission expected to publish its next set of plans? Eh – for local government? Are you sure you've got the right thread?!? Sorry, my mistake.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 28, 2017 18:56:15 GMT
The LGBCE have postponed the current stage for Scarborough by one month due to the general election getting in the way. The "request for proposals" stage will start on 30th June with the publication of the current and 2023 forecast electorate. If other reviews are in progress I wouldn't be surprised if they've been bumped back a bit as well. Now live on the LGBCE website.
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Post by greenhert on Jun 30, 2017 19:32:34 GMT
The LGBCE is inviting residents to have their say on boundaries for Nottingham and Richmondshire councils.
I live in Nottingham so I am constructing new warding arrangements as we speak. I will publish them once I have completed them; they need extensive work especially in the west and central parts of Nottingham where major re-warding is required (Bridge ward is much too large and Dunkirk & Lenton/Wollaton East & Lenton Abbey wards are much too small).
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 3, 2017 9:36:12 GMT
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Post by greenhert on Jul 3, 2017 17:42:51 GMT
@jamesdowden , the LGBCE with regards to Nottingham is only willing to accept submissions fitting to a council size of 55, no more, no less.
My plan goes like this:
Aspley (2 members)-loses the Broxtowe estate and the part of Strelley in the city of Nottingham. Adds part of polling district LEEC west of Western Boulevard.
Basford (3 members)-as existing Basford ward.
Beechdale (2 members)- recreates the old Beechdale ward, which was abolished in 2003. Created from much of Leen Valley and the part of Bilborough in between Beechdale Road and Wigman Road.
Berridge (2 members)-polling districts BERA-BERD; loses Hyson Green parts to new Hyson Green ward. Northern boundary remains Valley Road.
Bestwood (3 members)- as existing ward.
Bilborough (2 members)- loses eastern part to Beechdale and northern part to new Broxtowe ward.
Bridge (2 members)- loses parts north of the canal to new Central ward.
Broxtowe (2 members)-a new ward comprising the Broxtowe estate and parts of Nottingham north of Strelley Road, Broxtowe Lane, and Bells Road.
Bulwell/Bulwell Forest (3 members each)-as existing wards of the same name.
Central (3 members)-a new ward comprising the city centre and key amenities of Nottingham. Created from parts of Radford & Park (the Park part of that ward), Bridge (the part north of Nottingham railway station), St Ann's (the part west of Huntingdon Street) and Arboretum (the southern part south of Forest East Road, containing the Arboretum itself and Nottingham Trent University).
Clifton North West (3 members)-the existing Clifton North extended to add polling districts CLSA and CLSD.
Clifton South East (2 members)-the rest of the existing Clifton South.
Dales (3 members)- as existing ward.
Dunkirk & Lenton Abbey (2 members)-most of Dunkirk & Lenton ward plus the Lenton Abbey parts of Wollaton East & Lenton Abbey (which disappears).
Hyson Green (3 members)-a new ward which comprises the Hyson Green community and is created from parts of Arboretum and Berridge wards. Also adds part of polling district LEEC east of Western Boulevard.
Mapperley (3 members)- as existing ward.
Radford (3 members)-loses the 'Park' of Radford & Park to central, adds eastern part of Dunkirk & Lenton, and adds polling districts LEEE and WLAB.
Sherwood (3 members)- as existing ward.
St Ann's (3 members)-loses polling district ANNA, which contains the area west of Huntingdon Street, but is otherwise unchanged.
Wollaton (3 members)-expanded to include the Wollaton East part of Wollaton East and Lenton Abbey, and is entirely bounded by Wollaton Road, Derby Road, and Western Boulevard.
NB: Arboretum, Leen Valley, and Wollaton East & Lenton Abbey wards are effectively abolished in my proposals.
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Post by lancastrian on Jul 3, 2017 18:32:04 GMT
I know nothing about Nottingham, but I think the minimum change option is:
Give Bridge a third councillor. Combine Dunkirk & Lenton, Wollaton East & Lenton Abbey, and the southern end of Leen Valley for 3 seats. Move a few streets to get other wards within 10%.
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Post by greenhert on Jul 3, 2017 19:11:41 GMT
Minimum change is not appropriate for most of Nottingham since community ties need to be restored as well, hence my proposals. The LBGCE do not generally try to work on 'minimum change' unless this meets more important statutory criteria.
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Post by lancastrian on Jul 3, 2017 19:55:56 GMT
I would be very surprised if they did adopt my proposal for Wollaton East, Dunkirk, Lenton etc, but you'll have to make a damn good case to change anything significantly in the North and East of the city.
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