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Post by greenhert on Jul 3, 2017 22:40:48 GMT
I would be very surprised if they did adopt my proposal for Wollaton East, Dunkirk, Lenton etc, but you'll have to make a damn good case to change anything significantly in the North and East of the city. There is no case to change anything in the north and east of Nottingham, except to remove the part of St Ann's ward that is better connected to central Nottingham and which does not really belong there. The seven wards I have recommended be left unchanged are all in the north and east of Nottingham. It is west and central Nottingham where major changes are needed.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 4, 2017 9:37:17 GMT
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Post by wallington on Jul 4, 2017 10:52:43 GMT
I think the changes that have been made are for the better. I was initially disappointed with the ward boundaries in the centre of Croydon (the addiscombe/park hill boundaries were pretty bad) I quite like the idea of a separate one seat Park Hill & Whitgift ward. I am also pleased they have decided against that rather strange Bensham Manor ward set up.
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Post by johnloony on Jul 4, 2017 11:33:26 GMT
The initial proposals were bad because they proposed to combine bits of Addiscombe with bits of what is now Fairfield. Most of the responses opposed that, and wanted to keep the boundary along Addiscombe Road. The final proposals are better in reducing the original problem, but they have nincompoopismatically decided to split Park Hill (something which nobody wanted) and create a single-member ward (which nobody wanted). I have already emailed the LGBCE to tell them that their brains are infested with alien maggots. They have also been a bit negligent in not changing some of the proposed ward names which are silly and which should have been adjusted.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 4, 2017 11:35:03 GMT
The council can of course fix the ward names itself.
I'm sure the LGBCE will take immediate appropriate action on your email protesting at the new boundaries.
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Post by johnloony on Jul 4, 2017 11:37:19 GMT
The council can of course fix the ward names itself. Can it? Oh good! I'll get onto it then.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 4, 2017 11:39:58 GMT
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 4, 2017 22:11:57 GMT
Could you give a bit more detail about the political impact? Is Park Hill & Whitgift strongly Tory and hence the two Addiscombe wards are better for us than in the draft proposals?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 4, 2017 22:26:34 GMT
Could you give a bit more detail about the political impact? Is Park Hill & Whitgift strongly Tory and hence the two Addiscombe wards are better for us than in the draft proposals? You're asking the wrong person there, I think.
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Post by johnloony on Jul 4, 2017 23:08:05 GMT
Could you give a bit more detail about the political impact? Is Park Hill & Whitgift strongly Tory and hence the two Addiscombe wards are better for us than in the draft proposals? In 2014, in the current Addiscombe, Labour was clearly ahead in AD4 & AD5 (the western bits), but AD1,2,3 & 6 (the eastern bits) were more evenly balanced (my tallying at the count had all four of those boxes as split between at least 1 Labour and at least 1 Conservative (if they had been counted separately (probably still split even if you include the postal votes))). The southern bit of the new Addiscombe West (the bit which is now in Fairfield) would be Conservative, but not enough to outnumber the Labour vote. Therefore the proposed Addiscombe West would still have been comfortably Labour in 2014 - probably slightly more safe than the current Addiscombe. The proposed Addiscombe East is similar to the current Ashburton, with some similar bits of Addiscombe added on and a few bits removed. On balance, it would probably have been Labour in 2014, but only just. On the new boundaries, the new Addiscombe East is the most marginal ward in Croydon. The proposed Fairfield is a bit of an unknown quantity, because of rapid demographic change and a big increasing population - and because of low turnouts in the transient population in the northern bit. But probably still comfortably Conservative. The proposed Park Hill & Whitgift is safe Conservative. The main bit (Park Hill) is moderately so, or perhaps even marginal, but the Whitgift bit (the posh bit at the eastern end) is ridiculously safe Conservative. Waddon is slightly more Labour than it is now, because it gains a Labour bit in the north and loses a Conservative ish bit in the south. Overall, I reckon 2014 on the new boundaries would have been Labour 39, Conservative 31 (but that is assuming Labour would have held both seats in the new Addiscombe East) (compared with the actual result of 40-30. In order of Labour safety, I reckon there are: 29 safe Labour 3 mostly Labour, but marginal in a bad year (Addiscombe West) 3 usually Labour, but marginal in a bad or slightly bad year (Waddon) 2 usually Labour, but trending away from Labour demographically in the long term (New Addington South) 2 marginal, only Labour in a good year (Addiscombe East) 3 safe Conservative probably (Fairfield) 28 safe Conservative definitely
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Post by YL on Jul 6, 2017 22:14:03 GMT
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Post by lancastrian on Jul 6, 2017 23:16:18 GMT
As is often the case when reducing the number of seats, probably not good for the size of the opposition once UKIP are gone.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 7, 2017 0:57:07 GMT
From an initial look, it looks like they've done a good job of un-chopping-up some of the chopped-up areas.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 24, 2017 10:40:06 GMT
In the middle of Lord Heseltine's article in The Times this morning is this proposal: "Two-tier counties should be converted to unitary ones. The present duplication was born to reflect transport and communication by horse and cart or foot. This year’s redundancies could be next year’s council tax reductions."
But this is rubbish. The reason for two tier local government has nothing to do with 19th century transport difficulties. The present situation was actually set up in the early 1970s when Heseltine was in government, and he himself tried to bring in unitary local government in the early 1990s when he was Environment Secretary. Making the whole country unitary didn't work because local people objected, and even if it had, there are considerable short term costs to any local government reorganisation: council tax bills would have to rise not fall.
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Post by warofdreams on Jul 25, 2017 15:04:33 GMT
From an initial look, it looks like they've done a good job of un-chopping-up some of the chopped-up areas. Looks surprisingly good, only Bramley & Ravenfield standing out as including places with no community links - it's still an improvement on the old Silverwood. Thurcroft & Wickersley South and Sitwell don't look great, but hard to see how to fix them without creating new problems elsewhere. Would be good to rename Rother Vale as "Catcliffe & Treeton", it's rather different from the old ward of the same name and only includes a small section of the actual Rother Valley. And now the rest of Kimberworth is in Rotherham West, that could be renamed Kimberworth & Masbrough, as it doesn't include all of western Rotherham.
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Post by YL on Jul 25, 2017 18:14:58 GMT
From an initial look, it looks like they've done a good job of un-chopping-up some of the chopped-up areas. Looks surprisingly good, only Bramley & Ravenfield standing out as including places with no community links - it's still an improvement on the old Silverwood. Thurcroft & Wickersley South and Sitwell don't look great, but hard to see how to fix them without creating new problems elsewhere. Would be good to rename Rother Vale as "Catcliffe & Treeton", it's rather different from the old ward of the same name and only includes a small section of the actual Rother Valley. And now the rest of Kimberworth is in Rotherham West, that could be renamed Kimberworth & Masbrough, as it doesn't include all of western Rotherham. The old Silverwood must be one of the worst-drawn wards in the entire country: lots of little bits of places most of which are in other wards. I agree on "Catcliffe & Treeton" and had been thinking of proposing that myself; "Rother Vale" was a bad name for the current ward and it's not much better for the new one. If you're going to propose changing "Rotherham West" it might make sense to think of something else for "Rotherham East" as well, perhaps "Eastwood".
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Post by lancastrian on Jul 25, 2017 18:37:08 GMT
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Aug 1, 2017 10:36:34 GMT
Pembrokeshire and Torfaen councils are next to be reviewed by the Welsh Local Government Boundary Commission, but if you want the community data you have to physically contact them yourself
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Post by lancastrian on Aug 29, 2017 15:08:42 GMT
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Post by greenhert on Aug 29, 2017 19:20:50 GMT
Large parts of South Gloucestershire, especially those closest to Bristol, seem to have a lot of development work going on judging by forecast electorates!
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