Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 1, 2019 7:37:48 GMT
Well its easy to shoot the messenger, but what about her point?. Can a vegetarian be that supportive of farming?. Its rather like putting someone from CND in charge of defence. I'm going to let you into a massive secret that will blow your mind. Everything vegetarians eat is grown by farmers. I think the issue may be that in B&R most farming is livestock rather than arable.
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Post by andrew111 on Aug 1, 2019 7:59:44 GMT
Assuming it's the same Claire Mills, 2 minutes googling led me her register of interests in Powys Council, looking at her job she has more than a passing interest in seeing the Tories hold on... Well its easy to shoot the messenger, but what about her point?. Can a vegetarian be that supportive of farming?. Its rather like putting someone from CND in charge of defence. I think that sheep farmers in B&R may be more worried about an MP who would be prepared to vote for 40% tariffs on lamb exports to the EU in November than whether or not they are vegetarian...
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Post by froome on Aug 1, 2019 9:41:38 GMT
I'm going to let you into a massive secret that will blow your mind. Everything vegetarians eat is grown by farmers. I think the issue may be that in B&R most farming is livestock rather than arable. Andrew's preview is as wonderful as ever, but I'm not sure the residents of Builth Wells would appreciate it being called "not much more than a village", nor the references to Breconshire, which if used at all ought really to be Brecknockshire.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 1, 2019 9:53:59 GMT
I think the issue may be that in B&R most farming is livestock rather than arable. Andrew's preview is as wonderful as ever, but I'm not sure the residents of Builth Wells would appreciate it being called "not much more than a village", nor the references to Breconshire, which if used at all ought really to be Brecknockshire. You're being a bit picky about the county name - Breconshire was a slightly less formal name for it, but it was in use. You're on firmer ground about Builth Wells - 2,500 people is easily enough for a small town (and I don't think they'd pretend it was anything but small). In that part of Wales, villages are of the "blink and you've missed it" variety.
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Post by neilm on Aug 1, 2019 9:54:56 GMT
So some parts are counting overnight and some tomorrow?
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Aug 1, 2019 9:58:53 GMT
So some parts are counting overnight and some tomorrow? Well it won’t be done by midnight that I can guarantee! Sky News have a special show overnight too.
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Post by edgbaston on Aug 1, 2019 10:01:54 GMT
Well its easy to shoot the messenger, but what about her point?. Can a vegetarian be that supportive of farming?. Its rather like putting someone from CND in charge of defence. I think that sheep farmers in B&R may be more worried about an MP who would be prepared to vote for 40% tariffs on lamb exports to the EU in November than whether or not they are vegetarian... I know a few farmers round me that are very much LetsGoWTO. I pointed this out to a friend who's dad and uncle are farmers and the attitude very much is the government will look after us if it goes belly up.. At least among that family. I suspect this is true.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Aug 1, 2019 10:28:39 GMT
I think that sheep farmers in B&R may be more worried about an MP who would be prepared to vote for 40% tariffs on lamb exports to the EU in November than whether or not they are vegetarian... I know a few farmers round me that are very much LetsGoWTO. I pointed this out to a friend who's dad and uncle are farmers and the attitude very much is the government will look after us if it goes belly up.. At least among that family. I suspect this is true. An awful lot of farmers have a huge sense of entitlement.
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Post by cefin on Aug 1, 2019 10:29:55 GMT
Must confess I was extremely surprised at the time of the referendum without exception every local farmer around my way that I spoke to said that they were voting out.
Not quite the impression that the pro EU NFU and various associated mind reading politicians and commentators would have you believe.
Isn't it about time that the constant stream of rewhingers who appear on TV stop proclaiming what leave voters did or didn't vote for even though they clewarly have no mandate nor knowledge of why indviduals voted.
Its about time that even biased EU loving reporters on the TV challenged them as to how and why they feel able to comment on why other people voted despite having never met them nor discussed the matter with them.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 1, 2019 10:33:16 GMT
You're being a bit picky about the county name - Breconshire was a slightly less formal name for it, but it was in use. You're on firmer ground about Builth Wells - 2,500 people is easily enough for a small town (and I don't think they'd pretend it was anything but small). In that part of Wales, villages are of the "blink and you've missed it" variety. Yes. These matters are all relative to place, need and perception. Here in lovely Rossshire (massive expansive sheep country like B&R) we have a county town Dingwall with a population way short of 6000. Yet in has a station, large stock mart, complete array of services and shops, two good second-hand book shops, council offices, political offices, large supermarket, a Premiership Footbal Club, large High School, banks, good ironmonger and some excellent specialist shops. We moved there from Carlton-in-Lindrick (North Notts and the cause of my avatar) which is a busy but pleasant viallage to the north of Worksop in Bassetlaw constituency. That has some shops and pubs but is just a village with a lot of houses. It has a population 200-greater than Dingwall. What is Ian Smith's connection to Carlton-in-Lindrick?
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 1, 2019 10:34:47 GMT
Isn't it about time that the constant stream of rewhingers who appear on TV stop proclaiming what leave voters did or didn't vote for even though they clewarly have no mandate nor knowledge of why indviduals voted. You might have a point if the no-dealers didn't constantly do the same and claim support for their reckless drive towards the cliff edge ...
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 1, 2019 10:39:44 GMT
Assuming it's the same Claire Mills, 2 minutes googling led me her register of interests in Powys Council, looking at her job she has more than a passing interest in seeing the Tories hold on... Well its easy to shoot the messenger, but what about her point?. Can a vegetarian be that supportive of farming?. Its rather like putting someone from CND in charge of defence. Someone who wants to get rid of the most wasteful money pit in the MoD so you can put the money into practical defence infrastructure would be brilliant. More frigates, destroyers and patrol ships would probably be quite useful right now...
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Aug 1, 2019 10:51:54 GMT
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Post by johnloony on Aug 1, 2019 11:09:28 GMT
Assuming it's the same Claire Mills, 2 minutes googling led me her register of interests in Powys Council, looking at her job she has more than a passing interest in seeing the Tories hold on... Well its easy to shoot the messenger, but what about her point?. Can a vegetarian be that supportive of farming?. Its rather like putting someone from CND in charge of defence. Farming is an industry which produces food. Obviously a vegetarian would be completely against farming, because they don't eat food.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Aug 1, 2019 11:37:46 GMT
I'm going to let you into a massive secret that will blow your mind. Everything vegetarians eat is grown by farmers. I think the issue may be that in B&R most farming is livestock rather than arable.
Indeed, and personally I'd be happier if we had a candidate who was a bit more embedded in B&R rural life, but it remains a bloody stupid tweet. Stroud is a mixed agriculture area with the balance in favour of livestock yet David Drew is not only vegetarian but has been Labour DEFRA spokesman for two years, which presumably London Lad will be aware of given his deep concern for agriculture. He's also always had a good working relationship with local farmers and the NFU (or so I'm told by local LD members who farm - we've several). It's about knowing the brief and doing the work.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 1, 2019 11:44:54 GMT
Reporting from Breconshire - lots of Lib Dem diamonds around Hay-on-Wye, a few Tory posters as well. I spotted a Labour GOTV team doing the rounds but not having many names on the list. Nothing from anyone else. Only Lib Dems and Tories taking numbers, but there were quite a lot of voters for a polling district of about 1,500.
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Post by andrew111 on Aug 1, 2019 12:20:41 GMT
I think that sheep farmers in B&R may be more worried about an MP who would be prepared to vote for 40% tariffs on lamb exports to the EU in November than whether or not they are vegetarian... I know a few farmers round me that are very much LetsGoWTO. I pointed this out to a friend who's dad and uncle are farmers and the attitude very much is the government will look after us if it goes belly up.. At least among that family. I suspect this is true. I would think that someone who has such a touching faith in HM government would also trust a vegetarian to represent their interests... But i suspect the people in question would be unlikely to vote Lib Dem at the moment for other reasons. Kirsty Williams of course is married to a B&R farmer, so i daresay that is one farmer's wife at least that did not vote Leave. She is a better fit to the constituency than Jane Dodds, but I suspect her endorsement will reassure many Lib Dem inclined farmers given her evident personal vote.
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Post by andrew111 on Aug 1, 2019 12:41:02 GMT
What is Ian Smith's connection to Carlton-in-Lindrick? Thanks Pete, I had been trying to place Carlton's familiar-looking avatar.
My brother was a maths lecturer in Rhodesia for a few years until he realised Ian Smith was about to call him up and so he moved to the University of Ibadan in Nigeria, and then to Malawi where he married a Malawian and moved back to the UK where they had five lovely children, now grown up. Coincidentally they live in Eckington, which is extremely close to Carlton in Lindrick compared to Malawi, at any rate.
I often wonder what connection those people who decide to use a photo feel with their avatar, an amusing game.. In the case in point I will go with:
"person who doesn't believe in democracy and wants to turn back time"
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 1, 2019 12:43:02 GMT
Don't @ me
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 1, 2019 12:43:40 GMT
Think that was the Lib Dem candidate I just saw giving a TV interview.
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