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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 6, 2018 9:43:07 GMT
Reported on Twitter that ten Tory councillors on Gravesham DC have split from the ruling group. Almost inevitably, deselection shenanigans appear to be involved. The ten are headed by the council leader, and they announced their defection with a proper full news conference. It obviously takes the council into no overall control. Unfortunately the member of staff who knows how to update the website appears to be off on holiday.
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Post by middyman on Aug 6, 2018 9:46:52 GMT
Reported on Twitter that ten Tory councillors on Gravesham DC have split from the ruling group. Almost inevitably, deselection shenanigans appear to be involved. The ten are headed by the council leader, and they announced their defection with a proper full news conference. It obviously takes the council into no overall control. Unfortunately the member of staff who knows how to update the website appears to be off on holiday.Says everything you need to know about Local Government
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 6, 2018 9:49:32 GMT
The ten are headed by the council leader, and they announced their defection with a proper full news conference. It obviously takes the council into no overall control. Unfortunately the member of staff who knows how to update the website appears to be off on holiday.Says everything you need to know about Local Government Yes, it's got no money and is run on a skeleton budget.
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Post by Sharon on Aug 6, 2018 9:56:52 GMT
Reported on Twitter that ten Tory councillors on Gravesham DC have split from the ruling group. Almost inevitably, deselection shenanigans appear to be involved. Which means that the Council numbers are: 20 Labour, 14 Conservatives, 10 Indies, so it's now NOC.
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Post by middyman on Aug 6, 2018 10:07:26 GMT
Says everything you need to know about Local Government Yes, it's got no money and is run on a skeleton budget. In my experience, it has never exhibited any greater level of competence. Perhaps I have been unlucky in the areas where I have lived as far as Local Government is concerned. For a council to be dependent on one individual for a particular function is woeful, however.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 6, 2018 10:08:46 GMT
One of the Somerset tories who quit last week has joined the LDs. Neil Bloomfield is listed as LD now by both Somerset CC and South Somerset DC. Dean Ruddle is independent according to Somerset CC but still Conservative on South Somerset's website.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 6, 2018 12:56:47 GMT
Yes, it's got no money and is run on a skeleton budget. In my experience, it has never exhibited any greater level of competence. Perhaps I have been unlucky in the areas where I have lived as far as Local Government is concerned. For a council to be dependent on one individual for a particular function is woeful, however. I'm sure we're all grateful that we can receive such lectures in competence from somebody who seems to have taken a glib remark as a statement of absolute fact.
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Post by Crimson King on Aug 6, 2018 13:06:31 GMT
I assumed the op was a joke
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 6, 2018 13:19:54 GMT
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Post by timmullen1 on Aug 6, 2018 13:24:33 GMT
It really does help to bring your/somebody’s sense of humour into these threads. On the actual point, Stoke Council’s web policy is to not register defections until they’ve been reported to Full Council as, so they claim, they’re not official until then.
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Post by neilm on Aug 6, 2018 13:57:52 GMT
The Gravesham council leader will stay in post until at least the next full meeting, presumably?
Edit: I actually know someone on the cabinet at Gravesham. They made an oblique comment about a cabinet reshuffle about two weeks ago which makes sense now.
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Post by lbarnes on Aug 6, 2018 14:15:44 GMT
Not really a defection as such but Richard Farnell, the embattled former leader and former former leader, of Rochdale MBC is listed as being back in the Labour group after suspension. Anyone know if this is correct?
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 6, 2018 16:59:24 GMT
Jim Fleming, councillor for Cosham in Portsmouth, Conservative to Independent.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Aug 6, 2018 17:10:48 GMT
Jim Fleming, councillor for Cosham in Portsmouth, Conservative to Independent. Good old Portsmouth Council, the magical merry-go-round!
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Post by cj on Aug 6, 2018 17:11:11 GMT
Yes, it's got no money and is run on a skeleton budget. In my experience, it has never exhibited any greater level of competence. Perhaps I have been unlucky in the areas where I have lived as far as Local Government is concerned. For a council to be dependent on one individual for a particular function is woeful, however. The two statements are not mutually incompatible.
Staffing structural resilience (i.e. having more staff than strictly required to undertake a role) is a luxury that many authorities can no longer afford and is usually portrayed as magical efficiency savings until something goes wrong, of course adopting this model does not show a great deal of competence.
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Post by middyman on Aug 6, 2018 17:20:45 GMT
In my experience, it has never exhibited any greater level of competence. Perhaps I have been unlucky in the areas where I have lived as far as Local Government is concerned. For a council to be dependent on one individual for a particular function is woeful, however. The two statements are not mutually incompatible.
Staffing structural resilience (i.e. having more staff than strictly required to undertake a role) is a luxury that many authorities can no longer afford and is usually portrayed as magical efficiency savings until something goes wrong, of course adopting this model does not show a great deal of competence.
You wouldn’t need extra staff; you just make sure that there is someone else who can carry out the task if need be.
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Post by cj on Aug 6, 2018 17:27:41 GMT
The two statements are not mutually incompatible.
Staffing structural resilience (i.e. having more staff than strictly required to undertake a role) is a luxury that many authorities can no longer afford and is usually portrayed as magical efficiency savings until something goes wrong, of course adopting this model does not show a great deal of competence.
You wouldn’t need extra staff; you just make sure that there is someone else who can carry out the task if need be. And that time/money ensuring there enough are staff who can is largely what resilience is all about, each individual role is insignificant in cost of course but when your budget is reducing the focus is always on 'providing more for less' which tends to mean focusing on front line or core services the general public notice, hence there will always be something more important to concentrate your resources on.
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Post by andrewp on Aug 6, 2018 17:30:44 GMT
Jim Fleming, councillor for Cosham in Portsmouth, Conservative to Independent. Good old Portsmouth Council, the magical merry-go-round! Over the last 10 years say , which 5 councils have had the most defections? Don’t know if anyone keeps a running tally Stoke on Trent Tendring Thanet Tower Hamlets Portsmouth Any obvious ones I’ve forgotten
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 6, 2018 17:50:00 GMT
Thurrock, Great Yarmouth
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Post by myth11 on Aug 6, 2018 19:40:15 GMT
Ashfield,s had a few.
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