mboy
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Post by mboy on Mar 25, 2017 16:26:00 GMT
"Now we are finally rid of our MPs, we will finally be in a stronger position, at last"
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Post by iain on Mar 25, 2017 16:33:55 GMT
I think Carswell is no longer relevant now that he has left UKIP. Douglas Carswell was elected under the UKIP banner to deliver UKIP manifesto promises, is he going to stand by and vote in accordance with the promises he was elected on, I think there is a good chance that apart from abandoning the party label, nothing else will change, im not sure if anything would be gained from resigning, I suspect that if he stood against an 'officical' UKIP candidate, he would still retain his seat. I suspect that in a by-election UKIP would finish behind Carswell, a Conservative, and possibly even Labour.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 25, 2017 16:50:08 GMT
"Now we are finally rid of our MPs, we will finally be in a stronger position, at last"
Well if your only MP was say Jenny Tonge or that twat in Bradford you might feel like that too
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 16:53:20 GMT
I can't help thinking Carswell privately regrets ever leaving the Conservative Party in the first place. He would undoubtedly have retained Clacton as a Conservative. Not only that, there would probably have been more public sympathy for UKIP after the 2015 general election, because FPTP would have denied them one single seat despite them polling nearly four million votes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 17:01:17 GMT
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Post by politicalmatrix on Mar 25, 2017 18:00:54 GMT
I wonder what those useful idiots such as Evans who believed Carswell was oh so dedicated to the party think now. I suspect they will say, not unreasonably, that he was forced out of the party by arseholes. Arseholes who have no power (according to Carswell and his supporters) within the party.
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Post by politicalmatrix on Mar 25, 2017 18:02:46 GMT
Of course the question Farage should be answering is if Carswell is such a destructive dark force and not just an idiot with a key board why did he remain a member of the party during the 2 years he was leader.
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Post by casualobserver on Mar 25, 2017 18:04:57 GMT
"Now we are finally rid of our MPs, we will finally be in a stronger position, at last"
This could be a Momentum quote post the 2020 General Election.
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Post by politicalmatrix on Mar 25, 2017 18:08:16 GMT
"Now we are finally rid of our MPs, we will finally be in a stronger position, at last"
That's not quite what was said though is it?
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Post by johnloony on Mar 25, 2017 19:22:38 GMT
I'd like to take this opportunity of calling on Mr. Carswell to do the honourable thing and resign. Both? Which? You have contradicted yourself. He can't "do the honourable thing" (i.e. continue sitting as an MP in fulfilment of his 5-year mandate), *and* also "resign" because those are opposites.
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 25, 2017 19:48:09 GMT
Kind of amazing that UKIP have managed to be an even bigger dumpster fire than THIGMOO. That's some dedication and hard work I guess.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 25, 2017 19:48:19 GMT
Arron Banks statement [http://www.westmonster.com/banks-calls-for-clacton-by-election/ As much as I'm sure the voters of Clacton would resent voting for an MP three times in less than three years. It would be amusing to see Carswell call Bank's bluff and trouce him in a by-election.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 20:07:50 GMT
Arron Banks statement [http://www.westmonster.com/banks-calls-for-clacton-by-election/ As much as I'm sure the voters of Clacton would resent voting for an MP three times in less than three years. It would be amusing to see Carswell call Bank's bluff and trouce him in a by-election. I've suggested before that he could play it very cleverly. By framing the by-election as "Independent Carswell vs outsider party machine" he'd walk right back to the Commons without breaking sweat. "Only you, the voters, decide who represents them in Parliament, not millionaire funders or unelected former leaders."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 20:45:52 GMT
Arron Banks statement [http://www.westmonster.com/banks-calls-for-clacton-by-election/ As much as I'm sure the voters of Clacton would resent voting for an MP three times in less than three years. It would be amusing to see Carswell call Bank's bluff and trouce him in a by-election. The tories would walk right through the middle
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 25, 2017 22:08:26 GMT
I think Carswell is no longer relevant now that he has left UKIP. Douglas Carswell was elected under the UKIP banner to deliver UKIP manifesto promises, is he going to stand by and vote in accordance with the promises he was elected on, I think there is a good chance that apart from abandoning the party label, nothing else will change, im not sure if anything would be gained from resigning, I suspect that if he stood against an 'officical' UKIP candidate, he would still retain his seat. If he did trigger a byelection I suspect reasonable betting odds might be: Carswell 11/10 Conservatives 10/11 UKIP 20-1
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 25, 2017 22:11:29 GMT
"Now we are finally rid of our MPs, we will finally be in a stronger position, at last"
I look forward to reading Merseymike repeating that comment at some point.
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Post by Foggy on Mar 26, 2017 0:36:39 GMT
As much as I'm sure the voters of Clacton would resent voting for an MP three times in less than three years. It would be amusing to see Carswell call Bank's bluff and trouce him in a by-election. The tories would walk right through the middle If Carswell, Banks (or someone from his new party), the Conservatives and continuity UKIP all stand and split the right-wing vote equally 4 ways, then it's not totally implausible to envisage Labour strolling right to the top of the pile...
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 26, 2017 0:42:35 GMT
If Banks is this answer, how stupid is the question?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 9:14:21 GMT
Douglas Carswell was elected under the UKIP banner to deliver UKIP manifesto promises, is he going to stand by and vote in accordance with the promises he was elected on, I think there is a good chance that apart from abandoning the party label, nothing else will change, im not sure if anything would be gained from resigning, I suspect that if he stood against an 'officical' UKIP candidate, he would still retain his seat. I suspect that in a by-election UKIP would finish behind Carswell, a Conservative, and possibly even Labour. Say what you like about Carswell (and politically he is not altogether my cup of tea), he is genuinely popular in Clacton.
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Post by politicalmatrix on Mar 26, 2017 9:30:50 GMT
As much as I'm sure the voters of Clacton would resent voting for an MP three times in less than three years. It would be amusing to see Carswell call Bank's bluff and trouce him in a by-election. The tories would walk right through the middle Yes, the best case scenario would be both egomaniacs (Banks and Carswell) losing and have a Conservative representing the seat.
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