J.G.Harston
Lib Dem
Leave-voting Brexit-supporting Liberal Democrat
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 1, 2024 19:57:07 GMT
Part of that is that the Liverpool city boundary itself has been unchanged for so long. If you look at this 1936 map you can see the then boundary of the city and the boundary of the Parliamentary Borough as it had been in 1918. I think the only significant area added to the city since then is an area of eastern Speke, area 36 on the relevant parlconst map, and even that was added by 1955. Does anybody know why "boundaries in the River Mersey not determined from (point) A to B"? Really odd as part of it is an extension of the Liverpool city boundary in the river which *is* determined. When Liverpool extended southwards why did they not also extend the river boundary?
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Post by hullenedge on Oct 2, 2024 9:29:31 GMT
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The Bishop
Labour
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 2, 2024 10:53:52 GMT
Part of that is that the Liverpool city boundary itself has been unchanged for so long. If you look at this 1936 map you can see the then boundary of the city and the boundary of the Parliamentary Borough as it had been in 1918. I think the only significant area added to the city since then is an area of eastern Speke, area 36 on the relevant parlconst map, and even that was added by 1955. Does anybody know why "boundaries in the River Mersey not determined from (point) A to B"? Really odd as part of it is an extension of the Liverpool city boundary in the river which *is* determined. When Liverpool extended southwards why did they not also extend the river boundary? I think the boundary there was finally agreed and defined a few years ago.
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Post by Peter Wilkinson on Oct 2, 2024 17:50:27 GMT
I can't get the link to the blog post referred to in the X-tweet to work (looks like a 404 error), but the full text of the book it is talking about is available to read free online at read.uolpress.co.uk/projects/mapping-the-state - and is well worth taking a look at for its impressively detailed account of what was (despite a somewhat unofficial status) effectively the original parliamentary boundary commission, and something of a prototype for later Victorian administrative reforms.
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Post by islington on Oct 3, 2024 8:51:26 GMT
I can't get the link to the blog post referred to in the X-tweet to work (looks like a 404 error), but the full text of the book it is talking about is available to read free online at read.uolpress.co.uk/projects/mapping-the-state - and is well worth taking a look at for its impressively detailed account of what was (despite a somewhat unofficial status) effectively the original parliamentary boundary commission, and something of a prototype for later Victorian administrative reforms. Indeed. I had the benefit of seeing an advanced draft and it's fascinating stuff (and Thomas Drummond is a true hero).
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Post by John Chanin on Oct 5, 2024 5:57:09 GMT
Fascinating stuff. I have spent the last 2 days reading the book. Thank you for drawing this to my attention.
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Post by iainbhx on Oct 5, 2024 15:32:56 GMT
Allow me to be another to thank you for this hullenedge, this is fascinating stuff and is probably going to consume most of my weekend.
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Post by islington on Nov 21, 2024 10:17:25 GMT
On Tuesday I attended the formal launch of this publication, at which I had the pleasure of finally meeting parlconst in person after many months (if not years) of boundary-related correspondence. The book is really good stuff. It makes the crucial point that we shouldn't see the process of Parliamentary reform as a series of stages on a path to a predetermined outcome of modern democracy. Far from it: each stage was the result of a contemporary political dynamic and the outcome was designed to meet the needs of its own time. In no case is this more true than of the First Reform, which certainly wasn't intended to set the nation on a path to democracy (an idea that would have horrified its proponents) but on the contrary, was intended to create a settlement that would endure over generations to come ('a century' was often mentioned).
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