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Post by timmullen1 on May 13, 2021 9:58:07 GMT
Ellis losing was something of a surprise as his early vote was so strong Antony Green had him elected on the night and the ABC interviewed him from his victory party.
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Post by ibfc on May 14, 2021 6:40:21 GMT
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Post by timmullen1 on May 14, 2021 8:18:34 GMT
It appears that Brooks was running as a paper candidate not expecting to get elected, and has surprised himself by doing so, and has thus immediately resigned thereby bringing Ellis back into the equation. |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on May 14, 2021 9:32:15 GMT
It appears that Brooks was running as a paper candidate not expecting to get elected, and has surprised himself by doing so, and has thus immediately resigned thereby bringing Ellis back into the equation.
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Post by ibfc on May 22, 2021 10:53:02 GMT
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Post by timmullen1 on May 22, 2021 11:27:23 GMT
Labor look pretty safe for second now, only three vote centres to report and 1900 votes ahead of Shooters, Fishers, Farmers. Fairly weak showing by Independent Kirsty O’Connell on 9% given that she was endorsed by Malcolm Turnbull. I wonder (with a not insignificant dose of irony) if the Federal government announcement last week of A$600 million to build a new gas fired power plant in the Valley was of some benefit to the Nationals? |
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Post by ibfc on May 22, 2021 11:51:59 GMT
Labor look pretty safe for second now, only three vote centres to report and 1900 votes ahead of Shooters, Fishers, Farmers. Fairly weak showing by Independent Kirsty O’Connell on 9% given that she was endorsed by Malcolm Turnbull. I wonder (with a not insignificant dose of irony) if the Federal government announcement last week of A$600 million to build a new gas fired power plant in the Valley was of some benefit to the Nationals? I wouldn’t expect the Upper Hunter to be fertile territory for Malcom Turnbull clones. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jul 27, 2021 3:02:47 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Aug 16, 2021 10:30:39 GMT
An interesting hangover from the Tasmanian election. Because of Covid delays this was the first time upper house seats polled on the same day as lower house ones with some interesting consequences. (Tasmania is traditionally different and it's notably the one Australian state to go against the trend for both houses to be elected on the same day.) Due to the legislation there's a separate electoral roll for the upper house with a different cut off date and there were insufficient facilities to run upper house rolls at every polling station across the state so upper house ballot papers were only available at the polling stations in the two seats polling (a third seat had an unopposed return). It seems a number of entitled voters did not get upper house papers for various reasons. And although the Tasmanian Electoral Commission took the view that one lot of voters had effectively chosen this there is the problem that "Tasmanians are not accustomed to the concept of there being a wrong booth to vote at". kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2021/07/tasmania-2021-voters-who-voted-in-one.htmlNo challenge was lodged but it's a reminder of the problems of doing voting at any polling station when you have more than one election and different combinations of entitlement and ballot papers. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Aug 29, 2021 22:48:39 GMT
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Post by iain on Sept 11, 2021 11:21:25 GMT
Labor have gained the seat of Daly in the Northern Territory Parliament from the CLP with a 7% swing. It’s the first instance of a state / territory government gaining a seat from the opposition since 2000.
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Post by timrollpickering on Sept 15, 2021 11:41:02 GMT
The Western Australian government has announced plans for reform of the state upper house. Regions and group voting tickets will be abolished. The whole house will have an increase of one member to an odd number and be elected statewide in an all-out election. The voting system will basically be the same as New South Wales and South Australia's upper houses - either full optional above the line voting for lists of party candidates or below the line voting for individual candidates. However the minimum number of valid below the line preferences is 22 with no savings provision. There will be tighter registration and nomination rules with independents no longer able to stand solo or self-nominate. antonygreen.com.au/wa-to-adopt-state-wide-election-for-the-legislative-council/www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-15/mcgowan-election-laws-regional-representation/100463700Move over New South Wales you won't have the worst ballot paper imaginable. |
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Post by Foggy on Sept 15, 2021 17:15:46 GMT
The cardinal sin of any upper chamber is representing the same electorate in the same way as the lower house. Unless I've missed some detail, that's precisely what these reforms would cause the state Parliament to do. At this point, WA might as well abolish its Legislative Council.
NSW and SA do not fall foul of this rule because of staggered terms, whilst Victoria and Tasmania don't use a single statewide constituency. The federal Senate obviously has both of those features.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 15, 2021 19:04:41 GMT
The cardinal sin of any upper chamber is representing the same electorate in the same way as the lower house. Unless I've missed some detail, that's precisely what these reforms would cause the state Parliament to do. At this point, WA might as well abolish its Legislative Council. NSW and SA do not fall foul of this rule because of staggered terms, whilst Victoria and Tasmania don't use a single statewide constituency. The federal Senate obviously has both of those features. "My son, You aren't aware, by how much stupidity mankind is ruled!" (LEO XIII.) "And the most important advice: Make everything as slowly as possible!" (deTALLEYRAND) As a result i am in favour of 2 chambers, because they delay DecisionMaking. |
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Post by Foggy on Sept 16, 2021 17:18:20 GMT
I generally favour bicameralism too. But one chamber should not merely duplicate the other.
And in the specific case of Australia, it is peculiar how five states ended up retaining their colonial two-house arrangement, one state abolished its Legislative Council and the two mainland territories never had an upper house in the first place.
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Post by timrollpickering on Sept 16, 2021 19:25:27 GMT
I am reminded of Antony Green's comment that you tend to inherit upper houses rather than create them. Hence why the later creations never had them.
Most of the states, I think some when still colonies (*), introduced election to their Legislative Councils early on but usually with a more restricted franchise that took a surprisingly long time to abolish (South Australia talks a lot about having universal manhood suffrage in the 1850s and rather less about a property based franchise surviving into the 1960s). Labor were committed to unicameralism until about the late 1970s but rarely had control of both houses to enact it. They achieved it in Queensland helped by the LC still being appointive and the conservatives only having one term in government in the next 35 years but in New South Wales the conservatives managed to get the LC entrenched and appointments replaced by parliamentary election then the pesky electorate kept failing to vote for abolition in referendums. It was the 1970s when opinion switched to reform with PR and when NSW finally went directly elected.
(* Yes I know they were technically still colonies until 1986...)
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Post by Foggy on Sept 17, 2021 18:30:40 GMT
I think Vic fell foul of the "representing the same electorate in the same way twice" indulgence until as late as 2004. It's strange that the upper house wasn't either reformed or abolished before then.
And yes, in the case of the ACT its Legislative Assembly was essentially just Canberra City Council until the 1990s when central government turned it into a legislature against the electorate's wishes. But actually imposing another chamber on it would've been a step too far.
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Post by timrollpickering on Jan 21, 2022 20:45:28 GMT
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Post by bridgyoldboy on Feb 3, 2022 16:44:00 GMT
I see the latest Newspoll-YouGov for the federal election date 27-30 January is as follows: L/NP 34% ALP 41% Greens 11% Others 11% 2pp vote L/NP 44% ALP 56% the Labor Party lead has been fairly consistent over the last couple of months.
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 3, 2022 17:39:35 GMT
There is also near civil war between the Federal and NSW State Liberal parties over preselections, which could overflow into at least one of these by-elections, with local Party members apparently refusing to work at the by-election, potentially leading to, shock horror, no Liberal sausage sizzles at the polling booths.
Also potentially stirring the pot is right wing journalist and Network Ten political editor, Peter Van Onselen, who on Monday confronted Scott Morrison at an event at the National Press Club in Canberra with a series of texts between former NSW Premier, Gladys Berejiklian, and a person unknown, in which the more complimentary comments from Gladys about the PM were that he was a “horrible, horrible man”.
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