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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 8, 2017 21:43:36 GMT
No wonder he was asking all the branches in Hertfordshire to pay for his PCC leaflets...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 22:07:34 GMT
Whats wrong with Jess? She's working class and a bit of a star. She is absolutely not working class, but she makes a good stab of pretending to be. Her parents are middle class whose parents were working class. Indeed, and in this she relies on the stupidity of the national media who assume anyone with a regional accent is working class by definition. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 22:17:10 GMT
I don't know if UKIP will win here, but I would strongly caution against statements along the lines of "if UKIP lose here they're finished" or "if they win here they can sweep the industrial north/midlands". The one thing we should all know about Stoke is that it isn't really like anywhere but itself, and not just politically (its demographics, social/economic history, and indeed geographical location and culture are all distinctive). It could be that in these particular circumstances the Stokeness of Stoke lead to UKIP sneaking a gain or they could crash and burn on the back of widespread sentiment that Nuttall is a bad opportunist meff from Bootle, but it won't really tell us anything about their future prospects/challenges as a party.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Feb 8, 2017 22:36:46 GMT
The real issue with UKIP and Stoke is: which is more likely to make Nuttall give up wearing that stupid cap, winning or losing? And will he then get a proper shave?
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Post by AdminSTB on Feb 8, 2017 22:42:12 GMT
The real issue with UKIP and Stoke is: which is more likely to make Nuttall give up wearing that stupid cap, winning or losing? And will he then get a proper shave? I can't see him not wearing his cap. It's a tradition of UKIP leaders.  All part of the attempts to appeal to old Labour voters? |
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Post by neilm on Feb 9, 2017 14:21:33 GMT
The Cap of Powah has crossed the Irish Sea. Next thing, Nuttall will be turning up to funerals and lobbying for changes to drink drive rules.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 9, 2017 16:56:07 GMT
Her father was a teacher; her mother a Deputy Chief Executive of something in health. She (Jessica Rose) worked - for a while - in her parents' company. Working class? Don't make me laugh. The issue isn't whether she is working class or not. It's whether she claims to be working class (as per the ridicule heaped on Michael Meacher). As far as I know she hasn't. John Prescott when asked a similar question staunchly said he was middle-class.....(intelligent guy Prescott). I was responding to the poster on here who described her as working class; not making any claim re her. John Prescott was middle-class by background; his father worked in the District Control Office (Chester), a lower middle-class occupation at that time. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 9, 2017 16:57:32 GMT
The real issue with UKIP and Stoke is: which is more likely to make Nuttall give up wearing that stupid cap, winning or losing? And will he then get a proper shave? I can't see him not wearing his cap. It's a tradition of UKIP leaders. All part of the attempts to appeal to old Labour voters? There's caps ... and there's caps. Says a cap wearer. |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 9, 2017 17:23:36 GMT
Mmmmm! Nice cap. Sort of baker boy. I have had one. I prefer butcher boy/Kilmarnock bonnet at present.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Feb 9, 2017 18:08:13 GMT
There's caps ... and there's caps. Says a cap wearer. I confess that on occasion I wear a tweed flat cap, and the occasions are when it is raining and usually when I'm working outdoors, for which it is the best thing for the job. I don't wear a countryside cap when walking about the streets of a city on a dry day, any more than I would wear a pin-stripe suit and sober tie to a football match. |
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Post by neilm on Feb 9, 2017 19:35:02 GMT
I wear a countryside hat in the town, both of the flat variety and of the trilby type.
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Post by Khunanup on Feb 9, 2017 21:44:32 GMT
The only hat you'll find me wearing is my black fedora...
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Feb 9, 2017 21:48:51 GMT
The only hat you'll find me wearing is my black fedora... Likewise. As I get balder, it seems to be on my head for more and more of the winter commutes. |
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Post by Khunanup on Feb 9, 2017 21:53:57 GMT
The only hat you'll find me wearing is my black fedora... Likewise. As I get balder, it seems to be on my head for more and more of the winter commutes. I can't wear it as much as I'd like as my main form of transport is my bicycle, including my commute. If I'm walking around though... |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Feb 9, 2017 21:58:56 GMT
Likewise. As I get balder, it seems to be on my head for more and more of the winter commutes. I can't wear it as much as I'd like as my main form of transport is my bicycle, including my commute. If I'm walking around though... I had to stop wearing it when commuting on the Underground. The draughts were just too much. |
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Post by mrpastelito on Feb 24, 2017 13:54:51 GMT
In answer to the original question posed: No, but it has a distinct feel of Berezina about it.
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