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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 17, 2019 18:48:35 GMT
Has there been any sign anywhere of the actual petition text for Peterborough?
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ColinJ
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Post by ColinJ on Oct 19, 2019 5:34:39 GMT
Anyone got the Electoral Commission doubtful ballot paper booklets to hand? I think I've seen an example of exactly this given in one of them. . Unable to sleep, I got up early for a cup of tea and decided to have a proper look at this document. I might be a bit bleary-eyed, but I can see no reference at all in the examples (page 8 onward) to confusing ballot papers of the Three Rivers type (no. 1552, Shaw and Sons' examples 32-34). Maybe I've missed something? There's a danger that ROs, nearly 30 years after the Chorleywood case, could make an 'error' if they depend on the Electoral Commission's document when adjudicating dubious papers like this. |
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Post by john07 on Oct 19, 2019 14:35:58 GMT
Has there been any sign anywhere of the actual petition text for Peterborough? Expect it to be produced after the next General Election? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 24, 2019 16:39:14 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 24, 2019 17:16:18 GMT
All that and we never actually saw the petition text! Since the application confirms the Returning Officer was a respondent it's poor that Peterborough never published it.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 25, 2019 11:54:24 GMT
The hearing this afternoon could refuse permission. But unlikely. ELECTION COURT
SITTING AT THE ROLLS BUILDING
COURT 22
Before MR JUSTICE KNOWLES
Friday, 25th October 2019
Not before 2 o’clock
APPLICATION
In the matter of a Parliamentary by-election for the Peterborough Parliamentary Constituency held on the 6 June 2019
P366/19 Between Michael Green (Petitioner) and Lisa Forbes (Respondent) |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 2, 2019 16:10:48 GMT
I thought it had lapsed at the dissolution of Parliament or if not, been dismissed, but there's another hearing: At 2 o’clock
APPLICATION WITHOUT NOTICE
IN THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE
QUEEN’S BENCH DIVISION
THE ELECTION COURT
COURT 15
Before MR JUSTICE KNOWLES
AND MR JUSTICE HOLGATE
Tuesday, 3rd December 2019
Not before 2 o’clock
In the matter of a Parliamentary by-election for the Peterborough Parliamentary Constituency held on the 6 June 2019
APPLICATIONS
P355/19 Michael Green (Petitioner) v Lisa Forbes (Respondent) |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Dec 2, 2019 17:15:21 GMT
I thought it had lapsed at the dissolution of Parliament or if not, been dismissed, but there's another hearing: At 2 o’clock
APPLICATION WITHOUT NOTICE
IN THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE
QUEEN’S BENCH DIVISION
THE ELECTION COURT
COURT 15
Before MR JUSTICE KNOWLES
AND MR JUSTICE HOLGATE
Tuesday, 3rd December 2019
Not before 2 o’clock
In the matter of a Parliamentary by-election for the Peterborough Parliamentary Constituency held on the 6 June 2019
APPLICATIONS
P355/19 Michael Green (Petitioner) v Lisa Forbes (Respondent) And I hereby find the said Mr Jarndyce duly elected... |
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Post by greenhert on Dec 2, 2019 17:28:55 GMT
The hearing is moot due to the fact Lisa Forbes could potentially lose her seat at the 12 December general election anyway.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Dec 2, 2019 17:59:55 GMT
The hearing is moot due to the fact Lisa Forbes could potentially lose her seat at the 12 December general election anyway. I suppose it could technically determine whether she's entitled to a payout for losing it. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Dec 2, 2019 18:11:51 GMT
The hearing is moot due to the fact Lisa Forbes could potentially lose her seat at the 12 December general election anyway. I suppose it could technically determine whether she's entitled to a payout for losing it. MPs only qualify for a payout if they’ve served 12 months plus consecutively and are then defeated. (Sarah Onley, Richmond Park is an example of this). |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Dec 2, 2019 18:21:02 GMT
I suppose it could technically determine whether she's entitled to a payout for losing it. MPs only qualify for a payout if they’ve served 12 months plus consecutively and are then defeated. (Sarah Onley, Richmond Park is an example of this). Okay, so this is an utter waste of time. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 3, 2020 13:56:02 GMT
Today is 21 calendar days after the results of the general election were declared and returned to the Clerk of the Crown - the deadline for an election petition. (Unlike most other deadlines relating to election law, public holidays and weekends are not excluded)
Lots of ignorant chat on social media about postal votes and whatnot but I haven't seen any evidence of an actual petition.
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Post by greenchristian on Jan 3, 2020 16:30:46 GMT
Today is 21 calendar days after the results of the general election were declared and returned to the Clerk of the Crown - the deadline for an election petition. (Unlike most other deadlines relating to election law, public holidays and weekends are not excluded) Lots of ignorant chat on social media about postal votes and whatnot but I haven't seen any evidence of an actual petition. Isn't there a second deadline for petitions arising from election expense returns (which aren't due to be handed in until the 17th)? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 3, 2020 16:43:54 GMT
Today is 21 calendar days after the results of the general election were declared and returned to the Clerk of the Crown - the deadline for an election petition. (Unlike most other deadlines relating to election law, public holidays and weekends are not excluded) Lots of ignorant chat on social media about postal votes and whatnot but I haven't seen any evidence of an actual petition. Isn't there a second deadline for petitions arising from election expense returns (which aren't due to be handed in until the 17th)? Yes, although it's not set in law. Petitioners have to seek permission out of time. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 8, 2020 12:44:43 GMT
Yes, we have a petition arising from the 2019 general election. It's in East Ham constituency and is from Kamran Malik, who was the unsuccessful 'Communities United Party' candidate.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 8, 2020 12:55:14 GMT
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Post by belvoir on Apr 2, 2020 6:59:05 GMT
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ColinJ
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Living in the Past
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Post by ColinJ on Apr 2, 2020 7:24:02 GMT
Interesting. It could be, of course, that what was witnessed was a bundle of 100 Labour block votes transferred out of the Tory block vote pile. I am surprised that the RO refused the agents a chance to witness a quick bundle check. Brent have form when it comes to wrongly assigning vote bundles, as anyone who witnessed their total uselessness at the London North-West Euro constituency count in 1989 will remember...... |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 2, 2020 8:15:32 GMT
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