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Post by AdminSTB on Jan 17, 2017 20:48:35 GMT
As a born and bred Stokie, who's lived here for 51 of my 51 years and 11 months, I'd say that there is a parochialism that holds us back; I'd go as far as saying even someone from Stoke North/South/Newcastle-under-Lyme would be regarded as an outsider. Just a point on the Mark Fisher/Tristram Hunt comparison, I don't think Tristram's background particularly worked against him in the electorate, he worked hard to immerse himself in local issues and probably "talked Stoke up" more than either Fisher or the other outsider, Rob Flello, and attracted less criticism locally than Fisher who was something of an absentee landlord type MP. His problem, as Phil Burton-Cartlege outlines in his blog, was the manner of his "imposition" left a lingering resentment within the CLP that never went away. I Do you get a vote in this by-election? I had ancestors who lived in Burslem in the late 19th century/early 20th century, all of them working in the pottery industry. I don't think it was considered part of Stoke-on-Trent back then (is it now?) as it was placed in the registration district of Wolstanton. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 17, 2017 21:37:13 GMT
The other 11 months was at Hereward FE College in Coventry for students with a physical disability.
No, I'm in Stoke South, at least unless/until the boundary changes when I'm expelled from the City into Staffordshire West.
You maybe correct about Burslem (or Boslem as it's known in Pottery dialect) as Federation of the Six Towns to become the City of Stoke-on-Trent didn't take place until 1910, so it may have been connected to Wolstanton (now part of Newcastle-under-Lyme) before that, but it's in fact called The Mother Town as it was the first of the six to ratify Federation, and the inspiration for Arnold Bennett's Bursley. It's also the hometown of current favourite son, Robert Williams.
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 17, 2017 22:25:18 GMT
As a born and bred Stokie, who's lived here for 51 of my 51 years and 11 months, Where did you live for the other 11 months? Her Majesty was pleased? |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 17, 2017 22:27:17 GMT
As a born and bred Stokie, who's lived here for 51 of my 51 years and 11 months, I'd say that there is a parochialism that holds us back; I'd go as far as saying even someone from Stoke North/South/Newcastle-under-Lyme would be regarded as an outsider. Just a point on the Mark Fisher/Tristram Hunt comparison, I don't think Tristram's background particularly worked against him in the electorate, he worked hard to immerse himself in local issues and probably "talked Stoke up" more than either Fisher or the other outsider, Rob Flello, and attracted less criticism locally than Fisher who was something of an absentee landlord type MP. His problem, as Phil Burton-Cartlege outlines in his blog, was the manner of his "imposition" left a lingering resentment within the CLP that never went away. I Do you get a vote in this by-election? I had ancestors who lived in Burslem in the late 19th century/early 20th century, all of them working in the pottery industry. I don't think it was considered part of Stoke-on-Trent back then (is it now?) as it was placed in the registration district of Wolstanton. So did I. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 17, 2017 22:30:35 GMT
The other 11 months was at Hereward FE College in Coventry for students with a physical disability. No, I'm in Stoke South, at least unless/until the boundary changes when I'm expelled from the City into Staffordshire West. You maybe correct about Burslem (or Boslem as it's known in Pottery dialect) as Federation of the Six Towns to become the City of Stoke-on-Trent didn't take place until 1910, so it may have been connected to Wolstanton (now part of Newcastle-under-Lyme) before that, but it's in fact called The Mother Town as it was the first of the six to ratify Federation, and the inspiration for Arnold Bennett's Bursley. It's also the hometown of current favourite son, Robert Williams. I seem to recall that Wolstanton (possibly No.2 pit) had one of greatest sheer drops in the coalfields? |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 17, 2017 22:45:12 GMT
The other 11 months was at Hereward FE College in Coventry for students with a physical disability. No, I'm in Stoke South, at least unless/until the boundary changes when I'm expelled from the City into Staffordshire West. You maybe correct about Burslem (or Boslem as it's known in Pottery dialect) as Federation of the Six Towns to become the City of Stoke-on-Trent didn't take place until 1910, so it may have been connected to Wolstanton (now part of Newcastle-under-Lyme) before that, but it's in fact called The Mother Town as it was the first of the six to ratify Federation, and the inspiration for Arnold Bennett's Bursley. It's also the hometown of current favourite son, Robert Williams. I seem to recall that Wolstanton (possibly No.2 pit) had one of greatest sheer drops in the coalfields? That's way beyond my area of expertise; given that I'm shall we say vertically challenged, the long-running joke was the closest i came to going down the pit was in a cage to test for gas.... :/ |
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Post by greenchristian on Jan 17, 2017 23:25:46 GMT
The other 11 months was at Hereward FE College in Coventry for students with a physical disability. Well, at least you got a taste of living somewhere nicer.  |
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Post by neilm on Jan 18, 2017 1:32:19 GMT
What happened to the charges against Mark Meredith?
A genuine question- I wasn't a huge fan of Mike Wolfe but was surprised to hear of the allegations against his successor.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 8:41:48 GMT
A slightly different graph than the usual. The three main parties with the Labour lead as a trending line, 1979-2015  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 8:55:03 GMT
A slightly different graph than the usual. The three main parties with the Labour lead as a trending line, 1979-2015 Well, its better than the old ones! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 8:57:45 GMT
Now why didn't I think of something like this ages ago......
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 18, 2017 9:47:16 GMT
You seem to have forgotten the party which came second last time
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 10:29:16 GMT
You seem to have forgotten the party which came second last time Not forgotten. Not included. |
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Post by neilm on Jan 18, 2017 10:44:35 GMT
You seem to have forgotten the party which came second last time Not forgotten. Not included. Are you in the Boothroyd school of just talking about two parties? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 10:53:42 GMT
Not forgotten. Not included. Are you in the Boothroyd school of just talking about two parties? Not at all, as all other graphs and graphics I've created would show. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 12:47:24 GMT
Well Nuttal will not win
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Post by mrpastelito on Jan 18, 2017 13:10:10 GMT
Well with him running it's make or break for UKIP. He absolutely has to become at least a very close second or it's curtains for him, and the party as party (not necessarily as pressure group). We can then wait and see what Banks is up to.
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Post by Sharon on Jan 18, 2017 16:25:21 GMT
Is he definitely the UKIP candidate? |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 18, 2017 16:37:30 GMT
What happened to the charges against Mark Meredith? A genuine question- I wasn't a huge fan of Mike Wolfe but was surprised to hear of the allegations against his successor. They were merely that, allegations, no criminal charges were ever brought by the CPS. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 18, 2017 16:38:47 GMT
Is he definitely the UKIP candidate? ITV News claim to have been told he is "definitely running"; I understand there's a formal selection meeting on Friday evening. |
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