Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Dec 9, 2016 1:29:41 GMT
A result like this? Why anyone would care about poor results in hopeless areas? A single digit result would be poor (obviously) but yes, it isn't usual to care greatly about lousy results in seats you had no prayer in, with attempts to do so (no matter the party) tending to look pretty transparent. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 9, 2016 1:42:20 GMT
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Dec 9, 2016 1:42:26 GMT
Labour have no effective organisation at all in the constituency, barely even running candidates in district elections. Quite. The aberrations were the 1997 & 2001 results not the rest. For Labour to have got over 30% in both of those years was astounding bearing in mind their only real historic area of strength in the constituency is Sleaford itself. |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 9, 2016 1:43:44 GMT
The circumstances are presently excellent for a LibDem-recovery, aren't they (Brexit, Corbyn, OneNation-May, UKIP)?
With a less clownish leader...
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greenhert
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Post by greenhert on Dec 9, 2016 1:44:24 GMT
Can anyone link me to some live video coverage of the by-election count/impending result, please?
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 9, 2016 1:47:52 GMT
Can anyone link me to some live video coverage of the by-election count/impending result, please? Sky News and BBC News Channel, although it was reported earlier that the result wasn't expected until about 4am. |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Dec 9, 2016 1:49:34 GMT
Labour came second here in 1997, 2001, 2005 and 2015... Losing their deposit would be a drop of 12% from their worst result here since the seat was created. Pretty crap for them in a by-election to be honest. Definitely not a winning party... Well I'm not saying that the result (whatever it is: the thing about big rural seats like this is that they take forever to count even on a sh!t turnout like this and unless you know what you're doing you can read things very badly) will be good or that Labour are in a happy place; both would be absurd propositions. Labour voters are clearly not enthused at present (myself included) and that is damning enough and we don't need a paper candidate to poll poorly in a lousy seat to tell us that. But, like, there have been a lot of very poor Conservative results in by-elections in safe Labour seats since 2010 and they've pointed to precisely nothing. And as these facts are hardly unknown trying to make anything out of this would be tricky. |
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Foggy
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Post by Foggy on Dec 9, 2016 1:52:48 GMT
The circumstances are presently excellent for a LibDem-recovery, aren't they (Brexit, Corbyn, OneNation-May, UKIP)? With a less clownish leader... Yeah, they seem to have missed a trick with Norman Lamb. |
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Post by justin124 on Dec 9, 2016 1:55:01 GMT
Corbynites were able to claim back in the Summer that he had exceeded expectations in all the electoral tests set for him. That has now changed!
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iain
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Post by iain on Dec 9, 2016 2:05:43 GMT
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greenhert
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Post by greenhert on Dec 9, 2016 2:17:26 GMT
Apparently, the result will be released closer to 3 am rather than 4 am.
This is personally a relief for me since I need to work all day today (10 am to 5 pm).
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maxque
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Post by maxque on Dec 9, 2016 2:46:54 GMT
Corbynites were able to claim back in the Summer that he had exceeded expectations in all the electoral tests set for him. That has now changed! Don't spin too much, you might get sick. |
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Post by justin124 on Dec 9, 2016 2:49:20 GMT
Corbynites were able to claim back in the Summer that he had exceeded expectations in all the electoral tests set for him. That has now changed! Don't spin too much, you might get sick. Don't be so stupid! |
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greenhert
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Post by greenhert on Dec 9, 2016 3:01:25 GMT
Candidates lining up, floor being cleared. Is this from BBC5 live radio, then? I am seeing no video coverage of the by-election. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 9, 2016 3:02:00 GMT
Let's see if the BBC News Channel do their normal thing and miss the first 90% of the declaration...
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 9, 2016 3:05:06 GMT
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 9, 2016 3:10:42 GMT
Sky News:
UKIP second but not much improvement on 2015 share. Below 20%.
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iain
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Post by iain on Dec 9, 2016 3:13:43 GMT
Arty-Pole (OMRLP) - 200
Ayling (UKIP) - 4,426
Bishop (Bus-Pass) - 55
Clark (Lab) - 3,363
Count (ND) - 186
Johnson (Con) - 17,570
Overton (Lincs) - 2,892
Pepper (LD) - 3,606
Stock (Ind) - 462
Suffield (Ind) - 74
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 9, 2016 3:14:30 GMT
Con 17,517
UKIP 4,486
LD 3,606
Lab 3,363
Lincs Ind 2,892
Payne 462
Loony 200
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neilm
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Post by neilm on Dec 9, 2016 3:14:39 GMT
Better than I expected for Labour.
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