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Post by john07 on Oct 27, 2016 20:23:37 GMT
Ironic... whereas as both of Scotlands WC wins where when a scot was PM ... It seems unlikely but there are huge Tory influences in rugby league, which I'm happy to bore you with if requested. My personal favourite Tory RL moment is the 1959 general election. The Labour MP and the Tory challenger, none other than Michael Jopling, were invited to perform a ceremonial kickoff for each half at Wakefield Trinity. A week later, Jopling received a letter from the RFU, declaring that he had professionalised himself and was banned from rugby union for life. That's not as bad as the 11 year old who competed in a race at the Highland games winning a bar of chocolate. He was informed that he would be banned for life from amateur athletics as it as a professional event. Unlike the 'amateurs' such as Seb Coe with multi million pound trust funds! |
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Post by john07 on Oct 27, 2016 20:40:22 GMT
I think Utah is the one to go for.
McMullin v Trump is likely to be tight with Clinton just behind.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 21:16:32 GMT
I think Utah is the one to go for. McMullin v Trump is likely to be tight with Clinton just behind. I expect McMullin to win with a clear margin. Trump will finish third in SLC. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 28, 2016 6:23:54 GMT
McMullin winning would be a great thing for US democracy in my view. An unflashy, values-based campaign that inspires enough voters to reject the easy option of voting for the party they always do in favour of a bloke with hardly any funding and little organisation bar some willing volunteers.
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Post by mondialito on Oct 28, 2016 7:00:22 GMT
McMullin winning Utah would show a way forward for the Republicans in how to stand for limited government, low taxes and strong national defence without being a d*ck about it. Whether enough people in the party are smart enough to recognise it as such is another matter.
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 28, 2016 7:08:06 GMT
I don't think that Utah will be the losest, it will be a three way race but I think Georgia, Ariaona and Ohio will all be much closer
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 7:10:08 GMT
My prediction is a Mcmullin Republican presidency in 2020  Im going Indiana |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 28, 2016 7:12:24 GMT
My prediction is a Mcmullin Republican presidency in 2020 :p Highly unlikely, how will he fare in the primaries against Trump 2.0? |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 28, 2016 7:13:16 GMT
The poll has a unusually nice symmetry at the moment, 7, 7, 4, 4, 4, 4, 3, 1, 1
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 28, 2016 7:15:25 GMT
The poll has a unusually nice symmetry at the moment, 7, 7, 4, 4, 4, 4, 3, 1, 1 Boo, someone has swapped their vote from Arizona to Iowa ruining it all |
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 29, 2016 0:32:43 GMT
My prediction is a Mcmullin Republican presidency in 2020 I can't see that happening but I could easily see him being a leading contender for Orrin Hatch's senate seat that is up in two years time. |
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Post by Rural Radical on Oct 29, 2016 7:53:31 GMT
I have gone for Arizona
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 29, 2016 14:18:19 GMT
My prediction is a Mcmullin Republican presidency in 2020 I can't see that happening but I could easily see him being a leading contender for Orrin Hatch's senate seat that is up in two years time. Is Hatch standing down? |
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 29, 2016 14:25:44 GMT
I can't see that happening but I could easily see him being a leading contender for Orrin Hatch's senate seat that is up in two years time. Is Hatch standing down? When he last ran for election in 2012 he promised that this would be his last term. However he has recently been hinting that he could be "persuaded" to run again, if of course others thought that his continued service would be of value. If he does run he will likely face a very strong primary challenge. A poll over the summer had 71% of Utah voters (including 62% of Republicans) saying that he should retire at the end of his current term. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 29, 2016 14:36:51 GMT
Trouble with this sort of thing is that the quality of state polling has completely collapsed in recent years...
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 29, 2016 14:41:46 GMT
When he last ran for election in 2012 he promised that this would be his last term. However he has recently been hinting that he could be "persuaded" to run again, if of course others thought that his continued service would be of value. If he does run he will likely face a very strong primary challenge. A poll over the summer had 71% of Utah voters (including 62% of Republicans) saying that he should retire at the end of his current term. And he'd be 84 by then too I see. |
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Post by mondialito on Oct 29, 2016 15:52:35 GMT
When he last ran for election in 2012 he promised that this would be his last term. However he has recently been hinting that he could be "persuaded" to run again, if of course others thought that his continued service would be of value. If he does run he will likely face a very strong primary challenge. A poll over the summer had 71% of Utah voters (including 62% of Republicans) saying that he should retire at the end of his current term. And he'd be 84 by then too I see. Of course, that hasn't stopped Senators from running again. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 29, 2016 16:35:23 GMT
And he'd be 84 by then too I see. Of course, that hasn't stopped Senators from running again. Quite so. Grassley (83) and Shelby (82) will be re-elected in 10 days time while Dianne Feinstein will be 85 in 2018 and is seriously considering running for re-election. |
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Post by Adrian on Oct 29, 2016 20:22:08 GMT
Some parties are scared of their senators standing down because incumbency is such a big factor. That excuse doesn't apply to Feinstein or Shelby, of course.
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Post by Adrian on Oct 29, 2016 20:25:34 GMT
My prediction is a Mcmullin Republican presidency in 2020 The irony this time of course is that Trump is an independent running as a Republican and McMullin vice versa. It's not impossible that those roles will be reversed in 2020, though (a) Trump is no George Galloway and (b) McMullin does have something of the stormtrooper about him, in looks if nothing else. |
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