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Post by bjornhattan on Jan 5, 2023 18:22:10 GMT
A long time ago a previous me asked the egg-chucking question. Would chuck the egg at a Tory minister? Would you cheer the egg chuck? Would you sigh disappointedly at the egg chuck? Would you point out the egg chucker to the police? If you are one of those who think I have no decency, (plausible argument, but overly prescriptive. I turn it on and off) consider that question. Is it OK to refer to Tory scum, as the current Labour deputy leader did, or to call for ongoing harassment of tory politicians as a former shadow chancellor did. Is it funny to wear a never kissed a tory t -shirt? Is it fair game to follow the next generation of Mogglets down the street baying abuse? Do you want a kinder gentler politics or do you want to have a one way street where you bay abuse and the Tories apologise? Or is there a third way? Both sides bay abuse. Much as that might be an interesting philosophical question in a general sense, when it comes to this forum I'd appreciate it if no-one chucked eggs! Obviously it would be ludicrous to expect every single post in here to just be sunshine and roses, but baying abuse (especially in here, of all threads!) is not the way we should be operating. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 5, 2023 18:36:15 GMT
I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone to play nicely. There is only one person here who needs that reminder, and he's needed it for years but never been given it He has. But, sadly, he seems to get a kick from gratuitously winding people up. Which is sad. (I can say things like this now.) |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 5, 2023 18:39:11 GMT
A long time ago a previous me asked the egg-chucking question. Would chuck the egg at a Tory minister? Would you cheer the egg chuck? Would you sigh disappointedly at the egg chuck? Would you point out the egg chucker to the police? If you are one of those who think I have no decency, (plausible argument, but overly prescriptive. I turn it on and off) consider that question. Is it OK to refer to Tory scum, as the current Labour deputy leader did, or to call for ongoing harassment of tory politicians as a former shadow chancellor did. Is it funny to wear a never kissed a tory t -shirt? Is it fair game to follow the next generation of Mogglets down the street baying abuse? Do you want a kinder gentler politics or do you want to have a one way street where you bay abuse and the Tories apologise? Or is there a third way? Both sides bay abuse. Much as that might be an interesting philosophical question in a general sense, when it comes to this forum I'd appreciate it if no-one chucked eggs! Obviously it would be ludicrous to expect every single post in here to just be sunshine and roses, but baying abuse (especially in here, of all threads!) is not the way we should be operating. Such philosophical questions also don't seem appropriate to the "Introduce Yourself" thread. Our "new" poster has never been afraid of starting threads in the past. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Jan 5, 2023 19:29:25 GMT
I echo the comments above. Play nicely please, boys and girls.
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 5, 2023 22:49:33 GMT
A long time ago a previous me asked the egg-chucking question. Would chuck the egg at a Tory minister? Would you cheer the egg chuck? Would you sigh disappointedly at the egg chuck? Would you point out the egg chucker to the police? If you are one of those who think I have no decency, (plausible argument, but overly prescriptive. I turn it on and off) consider that question. Is it OK to refer to Tory scum, as the current Labour deputy leader did, or to call for ongoing harassment of tory politicians as a former shadow chancellor did. Is it funny to wear a never kissed a tory t -shirt? Is it fair game to follow the next generation of Mogglets down the street baying abuse? Do you want a kinder gentler politics or do you want to have a one way street where you bay abuse and the Tories apologise? Or is there a third way? Both sides bay abuse. Preach brother. These bastards need to be told the time of day and that there are two sides to a street and that the Grauniad is four times more fuck-witted than GB News and with a do-gooder, overtly alt.woke, arsehole Metropolitan slant to everything. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 5, 2023 23:04:54 GMT
I echo the comments above. Place nicely please, boys and girls. Where would you like us to place them Boss? |
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Post by batman on Jan 5, 2023 23:16:51 GMT
I shall refrain out of politeness from answering that question
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Post by wysall on Mar 5, 2023 15:26:38 GMT
I suppose a year isn’t that bad…
I joined the forum a year ago in February 2022 after lurking since around 2018, the same year I joined the Labour Party on the first day I could. I wasn’t an active party member until shortly after I joined the forum, which I think was in a way the impetus for me to actually get involved in the local party. I canvassed and leafleted for the local elections last May (though I wasn’t able to vote yet; I’ll be voting for the first time these local elections) and ended up attending Labour Party conference in September.
I have much more interest in psephology than day-to-day politics or individual politicians. How places and groups of people vote and why they do so interests me most. The lack of detailed GE results by polling district and ward, unlike most countries, is a curse in that regard but the estimates posted on this forum have been very interesting to see. I don’t really do the General UK Politics and Off-Topic boards but in terms of politics I am quite partisan and cannot imagine myself in another party; I’m also on the party’s right (Labour First, not Progress). I place myself, though, in a Liberal political tradition (even my puritanical/Puritanical tendencies), specifically the provincial and republican strain once strong in my home city, rather than a socialist one.
Regarding the other traditional preoccupations of the forum, I have recently rediscovered a childhood interest in the railways and plan to do two 14-day ALRs in June, but alas I don’t drink and I don’t plan to. My other interests include anime, manga, Hayao Miyazaki’s A Trip to Tynemouth, Anglo-Saxon England, and increasingly games from the late 1990s and early 2000s. I have lived my whole life in the historic boundaries (first Newcastle; and now coastal North Tyneside, to which I moved on the day of the 2017 general election) of Northumberland, for which I have much affection.
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Post by aargauer on Mar 5, 2023 15:41:49 GMT
I suppose a year isn’t that bad… I joined the forum a year ago in February 2022 after lurking since around 2018, the same year I joined the Labour Party on the first day I could. I wasn’t an active party member until shortly after I joined the forum, which I think was in a way the impetus for me to actually get involved in the local party. I canvassed and leafleted for the local elections last May (though I wasn’t able to vote yet; I’ll be voting for the first time these local elections) and ended up attending Labour Party conference in September. I have much more interest in psephology than day-to-day politics or individual politicians. How places and groups of people vote and why they do so interests me most. The lack of detailed GE results by polling district and ward, unlike most countries, is a curse in that regard but the estimates posted on this forum have been very interesting to see. I don’t really do the General UK Politics and Off-Topic boards but in terms of politics I am quite partisan and cannot imagine myself in another party; I’m also on the party’s right (Labour First, not Progress). I place myself, though, in a Liberal political tradition (even my puritanical/Puritanical tendencies), specifically the provincial and republican strain once strong in my home city, rather than a socialist one. Regarding the other traditional preoccupations of the forum, I have recently rediscovered a childhood interest in the railways and plan to do two 14-day ALRs in June, but alas I don’t drink and I don’t plan to. My other interests include anime, manga, Hayao Miyazaki’s A Trip to Tynemouth, Anglo-Saxon England, and increasingly games from the late 1990s and early 2000s. I have lived my whole life in the historic boundaries (first Newcastle; and now coastal North Tyneside, to which I moved on the day of the 2017 general election) of Northumberland, for which I have much affection. What games from that period do you like? |
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Post by wysall on Mar 5, 2023 16:07:40 GMT
I suppose a year isn’t that bad… I joined the forum a year ago in February 2022 after lurking since around 2018, the same year I joined the Labour Party on the first day I could. I wasn’t an active party member until shortly after I joined the forum, which I think was in a way the impetus for me to actually get involved in the local party. I canvassed and leafleted for the local elections last May (though I wasn’t able to vote yet; I’ll be voting for the first time these local elections) and ended up attending Labour Party conference in September. I have much more interest in psephology than day-to-day politics or individual politicians. How places and groups of people vote and why they do so interests me most. The lack of detailed GE results by polling district and ward, unlike most countries, is a curse in that regard but the estimates posted on this forum have been very interesting to see. I don’t really do the General UK Politics and Off-Topic boards but in terms of politics I am quite partisan and cannot imagine myself in another party; I’m also on the party’s right (Labour First, not Progress). I place myself, though, in a Liberal political tradition (even my puritanical/Puritanical tendencies), specifically the provincial and republican strain once strong in my home city, rather than a socialist one. Regarding the other traditional preoccupations of the forum, I have recently rediscovered a childhood interest in the railways and plan to do two 14-day ALRs in June, but alas I don’t drink and I don’t plan to. My other interests include anime, manga, Hayao Miyazaki’s A Trip to Tynemouth, Anglo-Saxon England, and increasingly games from the late 1990s and early 2000s. I have lived my whole life in the historic boundaries (first Newcastle; and now coastal North Tyneside, to which I moved on the day of the 2017 general election) of Northumberland, for which I have much affection. What games from that period do you like? Immersive sims mostly. Thief, Pathologic, Deus Ex (the first game, not so much the rest of the franchise), and Arx Fatalis are some I've enjoyed. |
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Post by aargauer on Mar 5, 2023 16:25:30 GMT
What games from that period do you like? Immersive sims mostly. Thief, Pathologic, Deus Ex (the first game, not so much the rest of the franchise), and Arx Fatalis are some I've enjoyed. Great stuff - I was in my early teens at the time and enjoyed stuff like Diablo (1 + 2), Baldurs Gate (1 + 2), Planescape Torment. Dues Ex was Great too. Also an ex Newcastle and ex North Tyneside resident! |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Mar 6, 2023 16:49:31 GMT
I suppose a year isn’t that bad… I joined the forum a year ago in February 2022 after lurking since around 2018, the same year I joined the Labour Party on the first day I could. I wasn’t an active party member until shortly after I joined the forum, which I think was in a way the impetus for me to actually get involved in the local party. I canvassed and leafleted for the local elections last May (though I wasn’t able to vote yet; I’ll be voting for the first time these local elections) and ended up attending Labour Party conference in September. I have much more interest in psephology than day-to-day politics or individual politicians. How places and groups of people vote and why they do so interests me most. The lack of detailed GE results by polling district and ward, unlike most countries, is a curse in that regard but the estimates posted on this forum have been very interesting to see. I don’t really do the General UK Politics and Off-Topic boards but in terms of politics I am quite partisan and cannot imagine myself in another party; I’m also on the party’s right (Labour First, not Progress). I place myself, though, in a Liberal political tradition (even my puritanical/Puritanical tendencies), specifically the provincial and republican strain once strong in my home city, rather than a socialist one. Regarding the other traditional preoccupations of the forum, I have recently rediscovered a childhood interest in the railways and plan to do two 14-day ALRs in June, but alas I don’t drink and I don’t plan to. My other interests include anime, manga, Hayao Miyazaki’s A Trip to Tynemouth, Anglo-Saxon England, and increasingly games from the late 1990s and early 2000s. I have lived my whole life in the historic boundaries (first Newcastle; and now coastal North Tyneside, to which I moved on the day of the 2017 general election) of Northumberland, for which I have much affection. Thanks for introducing yourself, but I must ask: why does a Liberal feel comfortable in a social democratic party? As someone floating between the ideologies of left libertarianism/libertarian socialism/eco socialism, I don't really feel any connection to social democracy (in fact, I outright oppose it in some cases) and I consider KS's Labour quite an authoritarian implementation of SD, which doesn't help the appeal from a traditional liberal POV. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2023 17:12:34 GMT
I suppose a year isn’t that bad… I joined the forum a year ago in February 2022 after lurking since around 2018, the same year I joined the Labour Party on the first day I could. I wasn’t an active party member until shortly after I joined the forum, which I think was in a way the impetus for me to actually get involved in the local party. I canvassed and leafleted for the local elections last May (though I wasn’t able to vote yet; I’ll be voting for the first time these local elections) and ended up attending Labour Party conference in September. I have much more interest in psephology than day-to-day politics or individual politicians. How places and groups of people vote and why they do so interests me most. The lack of detailed GE results by polling district and ward, unlike most countries, is a curse in that regard but the estimates posted on this forum have been very interesting to see. I don’t really do the General UK Politics and Off-Topic boards but in terms of politics I am quite partisan and cannot imagine myself in another party; I’m also on the party’s right (Labour First, not Progress). I place myself, though, in a Liberal political tradition (even my puritanical/Puritanical tendencies), specifically the provincial and republican strain once strong in my home city, rather than a socialist one. Regarding the other traditional preoccupations of the forum, I have recently rediscovered a childhood interest in the railways and plan to do two 14-day ALRs in June, but alas I don’t drink and I don’t plan to. My other interests include anime, manga, Hayao Miyazaki’s A Trip to Tynemouth, Anglo-Saxon England, and increasingly games from the late 1990s and early 2000s. I have lived my whole life in the historic boundaries (first Newcastle; and now coastal North Tyneside, to which I moved on the day of the 2017 general election) of Northumberland, for which I have much affection. Thanks for introducing yourself, but I must ask: why does a Liberal feel comfortable in a social democratic party? As someone floating between the ideologies of left libertarianism/libertarian socialism/eco socialism, I don't really feel any connection to social democracy (in fact, I outright oppose it in some cases) and I consider KS's Labour quite an authoritarian implementation of SD, which doesn't help the appeal from a traditional liberal POV.All of those terms are completely meaningless. Congratulations on destroying such a large chunk of English vocabulary in such a short paragraph  |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Mar 6, 2023 17:33:01 GMT
Thanks for introducing yourself, but I must ask: why does a Liberal feel comfortable in a social democratic party? As someone floating between the ideologies of left libertarianism/libertarian socialism/eco socialism, I don't really feel any connection to social democracy (in fact, I outright oppose it in some cases) and I consider KS's Labour quite an authoritarian implementation of SD, which doesn't help the appeal from a traditional liberal POV.All of those terms are completely meaningless. Congratulations on destroying such a large chunk of English vocabulary in such a short paragraph The political ideologies are established and KS is clearly Keir Starmer, but suit yersel I guess |
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Post by grahammurray on Mar 6, 2023 18:55:38 GMT
Thanks for introducing yourself, but I must ask: why does a Liberal feel comfortable in a social democratic party? As someone floating between the ideologies of left libertarianism/libertarian socialism/eco socialism, I don't really feel any connection to social democracy (in fact, I outright oppose it in some cases) and I consider KS's Labour quite an authoritarian implementation of SD, which doesn't help the appeal from a traditional liberal POV.All of those terms are completely meaningless. Congratulations on destroying such a large chunk of English vocabulary in such a short paragraph It's actually very coherent. You should try reading the recent release on Labour's "5 Missions". Absolute word salad. |
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Post by tonyhill on Mar 6, 2023 18:58:30 GMT
When I joined the Young Liberals in 1967 one of the nostrums was that "We are all libertarian socialists now." (Along with being Anarcho-syndicalists). Wysall would have fitted into the Young Liberals of that era without any problem. Politics has changed a great deal over that period, and social democracy has blunted the radical edge of Liberalism. One of the consistencies, though, has been the authoritarian thread that runs through the Labour Party.
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Post by aargauer on Mar 6, 2023 19:04:26 GMT
All of those terms are completely meaningless. Congratulations on destroying such a large chunk of English vocabulary in such a short paragraph It's actually very coherent. You should try reading the recent release on Labour's "5 Missions". Absolute word salad. It's utopian. To be on "the left" requires a big powerful state or, essentially wishful thinking. I can accept on the micro level elements of the libertarian left are viable. It simply isn't an ideology for running a country. It's internally inconsistent. I'd consider someone like Keir Starmer as lightly authoritarian as it is possible to be on the left. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Mar 6, 2023 19:58:20 GMT
I suppose a year isn’t that bad… I joined the forum a year ago in February 2022 after lurking since around 2018, the same year I joined the Labour Party on the first day I could. I wasn’t an active party member until shortly after I joined the forum, which I think was in a way the impetus for me to actually get involved in the local party. I canvassed and leafleted for the local elections last May (though I wasn’t able to vote yet; I’ll be voting for the first time these local elections) and ended up attending Labour Party conference in September. I have much more interest in psephology than day-to-day politics or individual politicians. How places and groups of people vote and why they do so interests me most. The lack of detailed GE results by polling district and ward, unlike most countries, is a curse in that regard but the estimates posted on this forum have been very interesting to see. I don’t really do the General UK Politics and Off-Topic boards but in terms of politics I am quite partisan and cannot imagine myself in another party; I’m also on the party’s right (Labour First, not Progress). I place myself, though, in a Liberal political tradition (even my puritanical/Puritanical tendencies), specifically the provincial and republican strain once strong in my home city, rather than a socialist one. Regarding the other traditional preoccupations of the forum, I have recently rediscovered a childhood interest in the railways and plan to do two 14-day ALRs in June, but alas I don’t drink and I don’t plan to. My other interests include anime, manga, Hayao Miyazaki’s A Trip to Tynemouth, Anglo-Saxon England, and increasingly games from the late 1990s and early 2000s. I have lived my whole life in the historic boundaries (first Newcastle; and now coastal North Tyneside, to which I moved on the day of the 2017 general election) of Northumberland, for which I have much affection. The more Anglo-Saxonists and Miyazaki fans on this site, the better. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2023 20:05:33 GMT
You maybe interested to know that in August I will be helping to excavate an Anglo-Saxon monastery
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Mar 6, 2023 20:19:20 GMT
It's actually very coherent. You should try reading the recent release on Labour's "5 Missions". Absolute word salad. It's utopian. To be on "the left" requires a big powerful state or, essentially wishful thinking. I can accept on the micro level elements of the libertarian left are viable. It simply isn't an ideology for running a country. It's internally inconsistent. I'd consider someone like Keir Starmer as lightly authoritarian as it is possible to be on the left. This isn't the right part of the forum to have a discussion on that topic, but if you are interested, create another thread and I'll be happy to explain my reasoning. |
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