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Post by BossMan on Oct 8, 2016 18:43:42 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 9, 2016 9:32:25 GMT
You might want to advertise this on another, more likely to be viewed, thread. Have you actually messaged ASV to explain the situation? |
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Post by BossMan on Oct 9, 2016 9:56:27 GMT
You might want to advertise this on another, more likely to be viewed, thread. Have you actually messaged ASV to explain the situation? We've had a conversation in the PMs over there and come to an agreement where I'm going to let him back under certain conditions, which I'll post in the Moderation Notices thread. If I do feel obliged to ban him again at some later stage, I'll advertise the other forum in a more prominent place. |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 11, 2016 11:26:07 GMT
OK people, I have almost finished 1000 seats so what should I do now?
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 11, 2016 11:29:56 GMT
1,000 seats would be interesting Well, from the electorates published we know that the electoral quota would be 45,004 (so around the same size as the current Arfon) no, the quota is 44,741 |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 12, 2016 11:44:42 GMT
Any other ideas?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 12, 2016 12:03:52 GMT
Maybe you could hop over to one of your 265 transport forums and come up with a thread about 1000 imaginary new rail lines |
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Post by islington on Oct 12, 2016 16:23:10 GMT
All right, ASV, here's something for you.
We have plans assigning 600 seats to Great Britain and Northern Ireland. But, of course, the UK used to include the whole of Ireland.
Suppose it still did, and the Republic received additional seats on the same basis as 600 have been assigned to the UK.
Well, the Irish Republic held a general election in February, so the timing is pretty well comparable with the UK cut-off of December 2015. I haven't been able to find an aggregate electorate for the Irish Republic, but I can calculate it indirectly because online sources tell me that 2136405 votes were cast and this was a turnout of 65.1%. So the electorate must have been 3281728, give or take. Dividing this by the UK quota of 74769 gives 43.89.
I therefore conclude that the area of the Irish Republic should equitably receive 44 seats, meaning a H of C of 644.
Your mission, ASV, should you choose to accept it, is to draw boundaries for these 44 seats based on the same rules as apply in the UK, including the 5% tolerance but also about having regard to LA boundaries, &c.
In principle, this requires a detailed local breakdown of the Irish electorate, and I think this may be hard to find. Therefore, if you prefer, you may allocate these 44 seats on the basis of population rather than electorate (but still subject to 5% tolerance either side of the average). You can use the data from the 2016 census, which found, on census night (24 Apr 2016), 4757976 persons in the Republic. This is an average of 108136 per seat, max 113542, min 102730. There are excellent maps on the Irish Census website.
Good luck.
(Let me concede, before anyone points it out, the complete artificiality of the proposed exercise. But I'm hoping that ASV won't regard that as a fatal obstacle.) |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 12, 2016 16:38:17 GMT
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 13, 2016 1:05:48 GMT
Maybe you could hop over to one of your 265 transport forums and come up with a thread about 1000 imaginary new rail lines already have |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 13, 2016 1:13:04 GMT
All right, ASV, here's something for you.
We have plans assigning 600 seats to Great Britain and Northern Ireland. But, of course, the UK used to include the whole of Ireland.
Suppose it still did, and the Republic received additional seats on the same basis as 600 have been assigned to the UK.
Well, the Irish Republic held a general election in February, so the timing is pretty well comparable with the UK cut-off of December 2015. I haven't been able to find an aggregate electorate for the Irish Republic, but I can calculate it indirectly because online sources tell me that 2136405 votes were cast and this was a turnout of 65.1%. So the electorate must have been 3281728, give or take. Dividing this by the UK quota of 74769 gives 43.89.
I therefore conclude that the area of the Irish Republic should equitably receive 44 seats, meaning a H of C of 644.
Your mission, ASV, should you choose to accept it, is to draw boundaries for these 44 seats based on the same rules as apply in the UK, including the 5% tolerance but also about having regard to LA boundaries, &c.
In principle, this requires a detailed local breakdown of the Irish electorate, and I think this may be hard to find. Therefore, if you prefer, you may allocate these 44 seats on the basis of population rather than electorate (but still subject to 5% tolerance either side of the average). You can use the data from the 2016 census, which found, on census night (24 Apr 2016), 4757976 persons in the Republic. This is an average of 108136 per seat, max 113542, min 102730. There are excellent maps on the Irish Census website.
Good luck.
(Let me concede, before anyone points it out, the complete artificiality of the proposed exercise. But I'm hoping that ASV won't regard that as a fatal obstacle.) but there is no easy way of drawing them, unlike Boundary Assisstant |
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Post by islington on Oct 13, 2016 7:07:23 GMT
ASV -
It's true there's nothing like Boundary Assistant, but the data and maps are all online and, since you were asking for suggestions, I thought you might enjoy the challenge.
But I did say "should you choose to accept it".
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 13, 2016 7:16:47 GMT
ASV is presumably unique on this site in being too young to remember life before Boundary Assistant. It has certainly made life a hell of a lot easier, but it was always possible to do these things previously using the ward data from the electoral commission and maps that can be obtained from multiple sources. Indeed many of these kind of projects (eg. my Lander seats) I used to do before mass-computerisation using pen, paper and a pocket calculator
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Post by islington on Oct 13, 2016 7:25:03 GMT
Pete, I'm sure you're right. These young people today - take away their electronic gizmos, and they've got no idea.
"Now, when I were a lad, I just got given an abacus and some scraps of parchment and I had to work it all out for myself."
"Abacus? Abacus?? You had it easy. We used to dream of having an abacus ..."
(and so on ...)
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 13, 2016 8:27:47 GMT
Well I may take on your Irish project if I find some spare time and if ASV does not feel equal to the task
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 13, 2016 10:11:47 GMT
please can some more people vote so I can decide what to do?
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 13, 2016 10:14:14 GMT
please can some more people vote so I can decide what to do? Just voted for UK 500 seats. |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 13, 2016 10:26:51 GMT
please can some more people vote so I can decide what to do? Just voted for UK 500 seats. thanks, I'll start next week unless some others vote for something else |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 15, 2016 0:26:44 GMT
I am now doing 500 seats
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Oct 15, 2016 0:43:43 GMT
So could people re-answer the poll
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