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Post by kevinlarkin on Sept 16, 2020 21:47:50 GMT
I was about to say Beckenham Hill, but checked the map and think it might be Ravensbourne. I glanced at London, but somehow didn't spot that point! It does look pretty much bang on, though disappointingly the combination of road and railway track means you can't really stand in all four constituencies at once. Interestingly, it isn't too far from Crystal Palace, where four London boroughs very nearly meet. Though that proximity seems to just be a coincidence. Yeah but the trains on the Catford loop line are about one every half hour, so you could probably manage it.
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 16, 2020 22:03:54 GMT
I've heard that at one time No Man's Heath used to be the border of 4 counties: Warwickshire, Staffs, Derbyshire, Leicestershire, but these days there's a slight gap between some of them so it isn't any longer if it ever was.
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Post by johnloony on Sept 17, 2020 16:03:43 GMT
This may have been asked before, and is a rather trivial question, but I'm curious. Are there any quadripoints on the current map of constituencies - places where four different constituencies touch? The closest I can find is just west of Bere Regis, where North Dorset, West Dorset, South Dorset, and Mid Dorset & Poole North come within 100 metres of each other, but are there any better examples? There's a near-quadripoint between Corby, Grantham and Stamford, Peterborough, and Rutland and Melton which is closer than that (47 metres IIRC). Struggling to think of any actual quadripoints though. EDIT: Found one. Beckenham, Bromley and Chislehurst, Lewisham East, and Lewisham West and Penge all meet at the railway bridge immediately north of Ravensbourne station. You mean Cambridgeshire North-West, not Peterborough.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 17, 2020 17:20:39 GMT
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Post by johnloony on Sept 17, 2020 17:50:23 GMT
Which sort of Scottish accent does Toby Jones have, playing Percy Alleline, in "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy"? I am wondering because the recent performance of David Tennant as Dennis Nilsen in "Des" (with an Aberdeenshire accent) made me think that David tennant is about the right age to play Alleline, if there were to be another remake.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 17, 2020 17:56:17 GMT
I've heard that at one time No Man's Heath used to be the border of 4 counties: Warwickshire, Staffs, Derbyshire, Leicestershire, but these days there's a slight gap between some of them so it isn't any longer if it ever was. The Four Shire Stone just down from the M96 used to be the boundary point of Warwickshire, Oxfordshire and Gloucestershire, and Worcestershire before 1931.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 17, 2020 18:11:43 GMT
I've heard that at one time No Man's Heath used to be the border of 4 counties: Warwickshire, Staffs, Derbyshire, Leicestershire, but these days there's a slight gap between some of them so it isn't any longer if it ever was. No Man's Heath used to be a tripoint, the Warwickshire boundary used to drive straight along the high street, with a triangular dogleg added in the Sanitary Districts era to transfer the village into Warwickshire; and the boundary of a detached portion of Derbyshire going arbitarily across fields to the north-east.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Sept 17, 2020 19:52:00 GMT
I would have mentioned this if I hadn't been in the pub!
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 29, 2020 12:17:35 GMT
The 2004 devolution referendum in the North East England was an all postal vote affair.
What were the checks to prevent/reduce fraud in the election - was it the same procedure as we have today - DOB and Signature etc? If so how did local authorities collect the information in the first place?
I'm asking as a few people have suggested elections next year could/should be all postal in the event of covid still limiting movement.
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 29, 2020 12:25:13 GMT
The 2004 devolution referendum in the North East England was an all postal vote affair. What were the checks to prevent/reduce fraud in the election - was it the same procedure as we have today - DOB and Signature etc? If so how did local authorities collect the information in the first place? I'm asking as a few people have suggested elections next year could/should be all postal in the event of covid still limiting movement. Here's the report :
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Post by hullenedge on Sept 29, 2020 12:27:23 GMT
The 2004 devolution referendum in the North East England was an all postal vote affair. What were the checks to prevent/reduce fraud in the election - was it the same procedure as we have today - DOB and Signature etc? If so how did local authorities collect the information in the first place? I'm asking as a few people have suggested elections next year could/should be all postal in the event of covid still limiting movement. Same procedure as now. Local government and European elections were all postal in 2004 across the North. Higher turnouts.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 29, 2020 14:21:28 GMT
The 2004 devolution referendum in the North East England was an all postal vote affair. What were the checks to prevent/reduce fraud in the election - was it the same procedure as we have today - DOB and Signature etc? If so how did local authorities collect the information in the first place? I'm asking as a few people have suggested elections next year could/should be all postal in the event of covid still limiting movement. Was it held on the same day as the all-postal combined Euro and Council clusterelections?
Edit... caught up with the thread, it was held in November 2004, six months after the elections in May 2004.
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Post by swanarcadian on Oct 29, 2020 22:25:01 GMT
One thing I have noticed - and had anticipated - when researching UDC/RDC election results is the relatively large number of seats for which no nominations were received. In these cases, the "retiring" councillors (in other words, the councillors whose turn it would have been to be up for election had they decided to stand again) appear to have been deemed re-elected whether or not they wanted to be. This rule must have changed at some point. When Yscir had no-one wanting to stand in 2017, it made the news because this is a much rarer scenario nowadays (when there are no lockdowns going on, of course). A by-election was caused on that occasion; the retiring councillor was not made to serve another term. When did this rule change, and did it depend on which type of elections were taking place?
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Post by No Offence Alan on Nov 8, 2020 23:34:18 GMT
Which nation has the Brucie bonus electoral system ? Greece, I think.
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Post by Foggy on Nov 9, 2020 8:17:13 GMT
Which nation has the Brucie bonus electoral system ? Greece, I think. Could have also said Malta. Depends which one Boogs considers more 'Brucie' of the two, I suppose.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 11, 2020 22:53:53 GMT
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Post by swanarcadian on Nov 29, 2020 14:00:54 GMT
One thing I have noticed - and had anticipated - when researching UDC/RDC election results is the relatively large number of seats for which no nominations were received. In these cases, the "retiring" councillors (in other words, the councillors whose turn it would have been to be up for election had they decided to stand again) appear to have been deemed re-elected whether or not they wanted to be. This rule must have changed at some point. When Yscir had no-one wanting to stand in 2017, it made the news because this is a much rarer scenario nowadays (when there are no lockdowns going on, of course). A by-election was caused on that occasion; the retiring councillor was not made to serve another term. When did this rule change, and did it depend on which type of elections were taking place? Further to this, I spotted this in the Yorkshire Post from 20 March 1948: There appears to be no explanation for the inconsistency here. It could be that the retiring councillor had died or moved away in East Ferry and Wildsworth, if not then there appears to have been different rules on how to fill vacancies from parish to parish. I still don't know at what point retiring councillors no longer had to serve another term when no nominations were received. For all I know, it may still happen.
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Post by ColinJ on Dec 3, 2020 21:49:18 GMT
I have been perusing, as one does, a book explaining the workings of the Corrupt and Illegal Practices Prevention Act 1883. It sets out the limitations of election expenses, which for English boroughs was £350 if the number of electors did not exceed 2,000. An additional £30 was allowed for every additional 1,000 voters on the register.
For counties the allowance was much higher: £650 and £60, respectively. My question is: What was special about the boroughs of East Retford, Shoreham, Cricklade, Much Wenlock and Aylesbury? These five boroughs were specifically allowed the expenses limits of counties.
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Post by bjornhattan on Dec 3, 2020 22:07:00 GMT
I have been perusing, as one does, a book explaining the workings of the Corrupt and Illegal Practices Prevention Act 1883. It sets out the limitations of election expenses, which for English boroughs was £350 if the number of electors did not exceed 2,000. An additional £30 was allowed for every additional 1,000 voters on the register. For counties the allowance was much higher: £650 and £60, respectively. My question is: What was special about the boroughs of East Retford, Shoreham, Cricklade, Much Wenlock and Aylesbury? These five boroughs were specifically allowed the expenses limits of counties. Geographical size, it seems. In the case of East Retford and Cricklade, there had been corruption and the constituncies had been explanded to take in the rest of Bassetlaw and the town of Swindon respectively. In Aylesbury, the constituency was defined as containing "The Three Hundreds of Aylesbury", meaning outlying areas like Princes Risborough were included, though I don't know why. Presumably Shoreham and Much Wenlock also had boundaries which were wider than their eponymous towns. In all these cases, logistically the expense of running a campaign there would be more comparable with county constituencies than other boroughs.
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Post by johnloony on Dec 4, 2020 0:03:12 GMT
can anyone find me a link to the famous cartoon from the 1975 EEC referendum, published by the In campaign, it showed an Orangeman, a Nazi, a kilted Scotsman ands a communist all marching for Out.
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