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Post by relique on Jan 8, 2021 18:01:32 GMT
Something that has always puzzled me - why does the Nord département have a small detached part within Pas-de-Calais? British counties had detached parts for historical reasons connected with aristocratic land holdings, but the French départements were created after the aristos had mostly met Mme Guillotine, so it seems a bit of an anomaly. I found an article for you:
Two hypotheses:
one "very-very-french": the "sous-préfet" of Cambrai (Nord) had a mistress in Moeuvres
one more likely: the three parishes depended on the Cambrai Evêché even though they were part of Artois (in Pas-de-Calais)
So the révolutionnaires may have taken into account this very clerical fact.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jan 8, 2021 18:11:13 GMT
Something that has always puzzled me - why does the Nord département have a small detached part within Pas-de-Calais? British counties had detached parts for historical reasons connected with aristocratic land holdings, but the French départements were created after the aristos had mostly met Mme Guillotine, so it seems a bit of an anomaly. This intrigued me so I did a bit of googling. Found this: www.lesechos.fr/2011/07/moeuvres-ilot-nordiste-en-pas-de-calais-1090579Short answer - no-one can remember. Two theories are 1) an official in Cambrai had a mistress in the area and 2) something to do with the Bishopric of Cambrai. The enclave also contains some British territory - WWI cemeteries. Edit: I see relique beat me to it, probably because I had to use Google Translate!
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Post by relique on Jan 8, 2021 18:14:55 GMT
Something that has always puzzled me - why does the Nord département have a small detached part within Pas-de-Calais? British counties had detached parts for historical reasons connected with aristocratic land holdings, but the French départements were created after the aristos had mostly met Mme Guillotine, so it seems a bit of an anomaly. This intrigued me so I did a bit of googling. Found this: www.lesechos.fr/2011/07/moeuvres-ilot-nordiste-en-pas-de-calais-1090579Short answer - no-one can remember. Two theories are 1) an official in Cambrai had a mistress in the area and 2) something to do with the Bishopric of Cambrai. The enclave also contains some British territory - WWI cemeteries. Edit: I see relique beat me to it, probably because I had to use Google Translate!
Yes, the Bishop owned lands their, and he kept control over those parishes even if the other villages around depended on Arras, apparently.
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Post by David Ashforth on Jan 10, 2021 11:35:24 GMT
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 12, 2021 0:11:08 GMT
Basildon 2019. Changes based on 2015: Ind gain from UKIP Nethermayne Lab gain from C Laindon Park Lab gain from UKIP Pitsea North West Wickford Ind gain from C Wickford North Wickford Park Split wards are (not taking account of by-elections or defections): Laindon Park is C/Lab/UKIP and UKIP are defending in May. Langdon Hills is C/Ind; following the recent death of the independent councillor both seats will be up in May. Nethermayne is 2Ind/1UKIP and UKIP are defending in May. Pitsea South East is 2C/1UKIP and UKIP are defending in May. Wickford North is 2C/1Wickford Ind and the Conservatives are defending in May. Wickford Park is C/Wickford Ind and is not up for election in May.
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Post by ColinJ on Jan 12, 2021 8:28:20 GMT
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 16, 2021 17:00:19 GMT
North Somerset 2019. C 13 (-23) Ind 13 (+8) LD 11 (+7) Lab 6 (+3) Portishead Ind 4 (+4) Grn 3 (+2) North Somerset First Ind 0 (-1). Changes based on 2015 (deep breath, here we go): Ward name change Weston-super-Mare Bournville to Weston-super-Mare South C gain from North Somerset First Ind Weston-super-Mare North Worle (1) (the NSFI councillor had died in 2017 and Lab won the resulting by-election) Grn gain from C Backwell Banwell and Winscombe (1) Long Ashton (1) Ind gain from C Clevedon South Hutton and Locking (1) Nailsea Yeo Nailsea Youngwood Portishead West (1) Winford Yatton (1) Ind gain from LD Wrington Lab gain from C Clevedon Yeo Weston-super-Mare Milton (1) Weston-super-Mare Winterstoke (1) LD gain from C Blagdon and Churchill Clevedon Walton Clevedon West Long Ashton (1) Portishead South Weston-super-Mare Central (1) Yatton (1) LD gain from Grn Congresbury and Puxton Portishead Ind gain from C Portishead East (2) Portishead North Portishead West (1) Split wards in 2019 were: Banwell and Winscombe: C/Grn Hutton and Locking: Ind/C Long Ashton: LD/Grn Portishead West: Portishead Ind/Ind Weston-super-Mare Uphill: Ind/C Weston-super-Mare Winterstoke: C/Lab Yatton: Ind/LD
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Post by John Chanin on Jan 16, 2021 18:41:25 GMT
Wow that’s as chaotic as Tendring. Who is actually running the council here?
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Post by andrewp on Jan 16, 2021 18:48:34 GMT
Wow that’s as chaotic as Tendring. Who is actually running the council here? The officers. Sort of everyone except the Conservatives. Ind leader, LD deputy leader. Executive is 4 Independents, 4 Lib Dem, 1 Green and 1 Labour.
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 17, 2021 12:19:33 GMT
Medway 2019. C 33 (-3) Lab 20 (+5) Ind 2 (+2) UKIP 0 (-4). Changes based on 2015: C gain from UKIP Strood South (2, 1 confirming a by-election gain) Ind gain from UKIP Peninsula (2) Lab gain from C Luton and Wayfield (1) Rochester West (1, confirming a by-election gain) Strood North (1) Twydall (1) Watling (1) Split wards in 2019 were: Peninsula: 2Ind/1C Rochester West: C/Lab Strood North: 2C/1Lab Watling: C/Lab
This was the outstanding council with the largest electorate. Next on that list is Southampton.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 17, 2021 12:56:16 GMT
The map there is considerably distorted by lots of the council's area being in the Thames and Medway estuaries.
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 20, 2021 18:54:24 GMT
Staffordshire Moorlands 2019. C 25 (-10) Ind 17 (+9) Lab 13 (+6) LD 1 (-1) Moorlands Democratic Alliance 0 (-2) UKIP 0 (-2). Changes based on 2015: C gain from Ind Churnet (1) C gain from LD Brown Edge and Endon (1) C gain from UKIP Forsbrook (1) Ind gain from C Cheadle North East (1) Cheadle South East (1) Cheadle West (3) Checkley (1) Horton Ind gain from Moorlands Democratic Alliance Ipstones Ind gain from UKIP Cheadle North East (1) 2 Ind and 1 Lab gain from 2 C and 1 Moorlands Democratic Alliance Leek East (confirming 1 Lab gain from C at a by-election) Lab gain from C Leek North (1) Leek South (1) Leek West (2, 1 confirming a by-election gain) Lab gain from Ind Leek South (1) Split wards in 2019 were: Biddulph West: Ind/Lab/C Checkley: 2C/1Ind Leek East: 2Ind/1Lab Leek West: 2Lab/1C The 2019 results are now 50% complete: 124 councils down, 124 to go.
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 21, 2021 23:18:10 GMT
Southampton 2019. Changes based on 2015: C gain from Lab Bitterne Millbrook Lab gain from C Freemantle Portswood Swaythling Lab gain from Ind Coxford Split wards are (not taking account of by-elections or defections): Bitterne is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in May. Coxford is 2Ind/1Lab; one of the independent seats has gone to Labour in a by-election and the remaining independent seat is up in May. Millbrook is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in May. Peartree is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in May.
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 22, 2021 22:55:56 GMT
Canterbury 2019. C 23 (-8) Lab 10 (+7) LD 6 (+3) UKIP 0 (-2). Changes based on 2015: C gain from UKIP Greenhill West Bay Lab gain from C Barton (3) Gorrell (2) St Stephen's (1) Westgate (1) LD gain from C Blean Forest (2) Nailbourne Split wards in 2019 were: Blean Forest: 2LD/1C St Stephen's: C/Lab Westgate: LD/Lab
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Post by hullenedge on Jan 23, 2021 9:21:03 GMT
The local newspaper catchment areas for the 'SELNEC area' in 1958:-
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Post by edgbaston on Jan 26, 2021 21:22:01 GMT
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 26, 2021 22:39:28 GMT
Redcar and Cleveland 2019. Lab 15 Ind 14 LD 13 C 11 Teesville Ind 3 UKIP 2 East Cleveland Ind 1. New ward boundaries. Split wards in 2019 were: Coatham: Ind/Lab Grangetown: Lab/Ind Guisborough: Ind/C/Lab Kirkleatham: 1UKIP/2Lab Newcomen: Ind/Lab Normanby: 2Lab/1UKIP Saltburn: Ind/C/Lab South Bank: Ind/Lab
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Post by ricmk on Jan 26, 2021 22:59:53 GMT
An easy map quiz for you all... I appreciate the world has moved on since Dec, but I've just seen this and had a quick look, and see that no-one has posted any attempts. I felt it deserved some response. No research or anything, just going on gut feel but I my best guesses were: 1) Seats represented by a knighted MP 2) Most marginal seats 3) Seats with largest population 4) Seats with an 'x' in the name. Was I close to some of them?
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Post by iain on Jan 26, 2021 23:24:07 GMT
An easy map quiz for you all... I appreciate the world has moved on since Dec, but I've just seen this and had a quick look, and see that no-one has posted any attempts. I felt it deserved some response. No research or anything, just going on gut feel but I my best guesses were: 1) Seats represented by a knighted MP 2) Most marginal seats 3) Seats with largest population 4) Seats with an 'x' in the name. Was I close to some of them? I had the same as you for 1. 3 I think is seats that have had a majority under 100 on the current boundaries, and 4 is seats with a w, x or z. On 2 I had absolutely no idea, but looking at it now I think you may be right.
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Post by European Lefty on Jan 27, 2021 2:26:39 GMT
Number 2 includes North Shropshire which isn't the most marginal anything as far as I'm aware
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