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Post by 𝚴𝜀𝘢𝜏𝘩 𝗪𝜀𝘴𝜏 on Jan 1, 2021 16:35:42 GMT
The Frankley estate was eventually incorporated into Birmingham. When I worked in Bromsgrove in the 1980s, the complaint of Frankley tenants was that they had no influence on their landlords. That is the parish of "New Frankley in Birmingham", the smaller of the two parished areas of the city, the other being Sutton Coldfield, the most populous parish in England with c. 100,000 residents Royal Sutton Coldfield is ridiculous as a parish. It should really be a non-metropolitan district in Warwickshire or Staffordshire, which it has more than enough population and wealth to sustain. If Solihull were to become a non-metropolitan district in Warwickshire, it likewise would not need that strange protrusion north of the Airport, which could go into Birmingham.
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Post by AJS on Jan 1, 2021 16:54:58 GMT
That is the parish of "New Frankley in Birmingham", the smaller of the two parished areas of the city, the other being Sutton Coldfield, the most populous parish in England with c. 100,000 residents Royal Sutton Coldfield is ridiculous as a parish. It should really be a non-metropolitan district in Warwickshire or Staffordshire, which it has more than enough population and wealth to sustain. If Solihull were to become a non-metropolitan district in Warwickshire, it likewise would not need that strange protrusion north of the Airport, which could go into Birmingham. I think the whole of Sutton Coldfield used to be in Warwickshire so that would be the obvious county to put it into again.
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 1, 2021 21:14:22 GMT
Brighton and Hove 2019. Lab 20 (-3) Grn 19 (+8) C 14 (-6) Ind 1 (+1). Note that the Green Party polled the most votes. Changes based on 2015: Grn gain from C Withdean (3) Grn gain from Lab Hanover and Elm Grove (1) Hollingdean and Stanmer (1) Preston Park (2) Queen's Park (1) Ind gain from C Rottingdean Coastal (1) Lab gain from C Central Hove, actually (1) Westbourne (1)  Split wards in 2019 were: Goldsmid: 1Grn/2Lab Hollingdean and Stanmer: 2Lab/1Grn Queen's Park: 1Grn/2Lab Rottingdean Coastal: 1Ind/2C
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Post by Foggy on Jan 2, 2021 0:04:26 GMT
Lab gain from C Central Hove, actually (1) I see what you did there.
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 3, 2021 14:35:35 GMT
Tendring 2019. C 16 Ind 11 Lab 6 UKIP 5 Tendring First 4 Holland-on-Sea and Eastcliff Matters 3 LD 2 Foundation Party 1. New ward boundaries.  St Osyth was a postponed poll. Localist lilac is Tendring First in Frinton and Walton, Holland-on-Sea and Eastcliff Matters in Clacton and Foundation Party in Weeley and Tendring. Split wards in 2019 were: Cann Hall: C/Tendring First Frinton: C/Tendring First West Clacton and Jaywick Sands: Ind/UKIP
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Post by relique on Jan 8, 2021 17:11:37 GMT
I did those maps of my "département". These are the legislative constituencies from 1958 to 2017.
I couldn't get the software to draw boundaries, so I had to use several blue, several red, several pink and several yellow to designate the right-wing (including gaullist and giscardien), the communists and insoumis, the socialists and the macronists respectively.
There's no map for 1986 since the election was a list-proportional election.
The boundaries are not perfect inside the cities (I need more information on that).
There are very few constituencies without much change.
The Dunkerque constituency has mostly been left-wing, even though it was once one constituency (by Albert Denvers), then two (with one going right-wing in 1993) then one again by my comrade republican left Christian Hutin (MRC then MDC)
To the right, the Lille-Lambersart and Lille-Marcq-en-Baroeul constituencies have been mostly right-wing (though with LREM now). The Flandre constituency (south of Dunkerque) has mostly been right-wing except between 1997 and 2002 with Monique Denise (PS), deputy mayor of Dunkerque (not in the constituency).
The Douai-South-East (then East) constituency (mining country) has also been communist for a long time, but not in 1958. Saint-Amand has also long been communist except in 1958 and in 1973 when a former socialist (who left in 1970 when the socialists signed a common platform with the communists and joined UDF) took it for one term.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jan 8, 2021 17:53:01 GMT
Something that has always puzzled me - why does the Nord département have a small detached part within Pas-de-Calais? British counties had detached parts for historical reasons connected with aristocratic land holdings, but the French départements were created after the aristos had mostly met Mme Guillotine, so it seems a bit of an anomaly.
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Post by relique on Jan 8, 2021 18:01:32 GMT
Something that has always puzzled me - why does the Nord département have a small detached part within Pas-de-Calais? British counties had detached parts for historical reasons connected with aristocratic land holdings, but the French départements were created after the aristos had mostly met Mme Guillotine, so it seems a bit of an anomaly. I found an article for you:
Two hypotheses:
one "very-very-french": the "sous-préfet" of Cambrai (Nord) had a mistress in Moeuvres
one more likely: the three parishes depended on the Cambrai Evêché even though they were part of Artois (in Pas-de-Calais)
So the révolutionnaires may have taken into account this very clerical fact.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jan 8, 2021 18:11:13 GMT
Something that has always puzzled me - why does the Nord département have a small detached part within Pas-de-Calais? British counties had detached parts for historical reasons connected with aristocratic land holdings, but the French départements were created after the aristos had mostly met Mme Guillotine, so it seems a bit of an anomaly. This intrigued me so I did a bit of googling. Found this: www.lesechos.fr/2011/07/moeuvres-ilot-nordiste-en-pas-de-calais-1090579Short answer - no-one can remember. Two theories are 1) an official in Cambrai had a mistress in the area and 2) something to do with the Bishopric of Cambrai. The enclave also contains some British territory - WWI cemeteries. Edit: I see relique beat me to it, probably because I had to use Google Translate!
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Post by relique on Jan 8, 2021 18:14:55 GMT
Something that has always puzzled me - why does the Nord département have a small detached part within Pas-de-Calais? British counties had detached parts for historical reasons connected with aristocratic land holdings, but the French départements were created after the aristos had mostly met Mme Guillotine, so it seems a bit of an anomaly. This intrigued me so I did a bit of googling. Found this: www.lesechos.fr/2011/07/moeuvres-ilot-nordiste-en-pas-de-calais-1090579Short answer - no-one can remember. Two theories are 1) an official in Cambrai had a mistress in the area and 2) something to do with the Bishopric of Cambrai. The enclave also contains some British territory - WWI cemeteries. Edit: I see relique beat me to it, probably because I had to use Google Translate!
Yes, the Bishop owned lands their, and he kept control over those parishes even if the other villages around depended on Arras, apparently.
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Post by David Ashforth on Jan 10, 2021 11:35:24 GMT
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 12, 2021 0:11:08 GMT
Basildon 2019. Changes based on 2015: Ind gain from UKIP Nethermayne Lab gain from C Laindon Park Lab gain from UKIP Pitsea North West Wickford Ind gain from C Wickford North Wickford Park  Split wards are (not taking account of by-elections or defections): Laindon Park is C/Lab/UKIP and UKIP are defending in May. Langdon Hills is C/Ind; following the recent death of the independent councillor both seats will be up in May. Nethermayne is 2Ind/1UKIP and UKIP are defending in May. Pitsea South East is 2C/1UKIP and UKIP are defending in May. Wickford North is 2C/1Wickford Ind and the Conservatives are defending in May. Wickford Park is C/Wickford Ind and is not up for election in May.
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Post by ColinJ on Jan 12, 2021 8:28:20 GMT
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 16, 2021 17:00:19 GMT
North Somerset 2019. C 13 (-23) Ind 13 (+8) LD 11 (+7) Lab 6 (+3) Portishead Ind 4 (+4) Grn 3 (+2) North Somerset First Ind 0 (-1). Changes based on 2015 (deep breath, here we go): Ward name change Weston-super-Mare Bournville to Weston-super-Mare South C gain from North Somerset First Ind Weston-super-Mare North Worle (1) (the NSFI councillor had died in 2017 and Lab won the resulting by-election) Grn gain from C Backwell Banwell and Winscombe (1) Long Ashton (1) Ind gain from C Clevedon South Hutton and Locking (1) Nailsea Yeo Nailsea Youngwood Portishead West (1) Winford Yatton (1) Ind gain from LD Wrington Lab gain from C Clevedon Yeo Weston-super-Mare Milton (1) Weston-super-Mare Winterstoke (1) LD gain from C Blagdon and Churchill Clevedon Walton Clevedon West Long Ashton (1) Portishead South Weston-super-Mare Central (1) Yatton (1) LD gain from Grn Congresbury and Puxton Portishead Ind gain from C Portishead East (2) Portishead North Portishead West (1)  Split wards in 2019 were: Banwell and Winscombe: C/Grn Hutton and Locking: Ind/C Long Ashton: LD/Grn Portishead West: Portishead Ind/Ind Weston-super-Mare Uphill: Ind/C Weston-super-Mare Winterstoke: C/Lab Yatton: Ind/LD
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Post by John Chanin on Jan 16, 2021 18:41:25 GMT
Wow that’s as chaotic as Tendring. Who is actually running the council here?
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Post by andrewp on Jan 16, 2021 18:48:34 GMT
Wow that’s as chaotic as Tendring. Who is actually running the council here? The officers. Sort of everyone except the Conservatives. Ind leader, LD deputy leader. Executive is 4 Independents, 4 Lib Dem, 1 Green and 1 Labour.
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 17, 2021 12:19:33 GMT
Medway 2019. C 33 (-3) Lab 20 (+5) Ind 2 (+2) UKIP 0 (-4). Changes based on 2015: C gain from UKIP Strood South (2, 1 confirming a by-election gain) Ind gain from UKIP Peninsula (2) Lab gain from C Luton and Wayfield (1) Rochester West (1, confirming a by-election gain) Strood North (1) Twydall (1) Watling (1)  Split wards in 2019 were: Peninsula: 2Ind/1C Rochester West: C/Lab Strood North: 2C/1Lab Watling: C/Lab
This was the outstanding council with the largest electorate. Next on that list is Southampton.
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Post by David Boothroyd on Jan 17, 2021 12:56:16 GMT
The map there is considerably distorted by lots of the council's area being in the Thames and Medway estuaries.
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 20, 2021 18:54:24 GMT
Staffordshire Moorlands 2019. C 25 (-10) Ind 17 (+9) Lab 13 (+6) LD 1 (-1) Moorlands Democratic Alliance 0 (-2) UKIP 0 (-2). Changes based on 2015: C gain from Ind Churnet (1) C gain from LD Brown Edge and Endon (1) C gain from UKIP Forsbrook (1) Ind gain from C Cheadle North East (1) Cheadle South East (1) Cheadle West (3) Checkley (1) Horton Ind gain from Moorlands Democratic Alliance Ipstones Ind gain from UKIP Cheadle North East (1) 2 Ind and 1 Lab gain from 2 C and 1 Moorlands Democratic Alliance Leek East (confirming 1 Lab gain from C at a by-election) Lab gain from C Leek North (1) Leek South (1) Leek West (2, 1 confirming a by-election gain) Lab gain from Ind Leek South (1)  Split wards in 2019 were: Biddulph West: Ind/Lab/C Checkley: 2C/1Ind Leek East: 2Ind/1Lab Leek West: 2Lab/1C The 2019 results are now 50% complete: 124 councils down, 124 to go.
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 21, 2021 23:18:10 GMT
Southampton 2019. Changes based on 2015: C gain from Lab Bitterne Millbrook Lab gain from C Freemantle Portswood Swaythling Lab gain from Ind Coxford  Split wards are (not taking account of by-elections or defections): Bitterne is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in May. Coxford is 2Ind/1Lab; one of the independent seats has gone to Labour in a by-election and the remaining independent seat is up in May. Millbrook is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in May. Peartree is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in May.
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