wysall
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Post by wysall on Aug 31, 2024 20:43:47 GMT
I wonder how Richard Everitt's family vote. They were working-class council tenants: after his death they were intimidated by The Community, which had helped his killers flee to Bangladesh, until they were forced to move away, ending up in Yorkshire. His brother tried to stay in Camden: he got evicted by the council, while his brother's killers' families were pretending they lived in fear of reprisals so that they could get nicer places to live (which the council enthusiastically helped with).
Camden Labour might as well have celebrated the murderers as heroes: they did, after all, go so far as to make one of them a councillor. Frank Dobson didn't care; he adamantly protested against any suggestion that the racist murder of a child was, in fact, racist. Though he did make sure to turn up at the funeral, Community Leaders in tow, and occupy the seats reserved for the family so that they could get some nice photos (leaving family unable to see the service, forced to wait outside).
Richard's great-uncle was a Labour councillor. I doubt any of them even vote Labour now: his brother certainly doesn't.
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J.G.Harston
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 1, 2024 6:48:59 GMT
my dad was... a boundary commissioner Oooooo.... JEALOUS!!!!!!
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Post by batman on Sept 1, 2024 8:35:58 GMT
That's a strange thing to be jealous about. It was very interesting work for him. I went to one enquiry over which he presided, the parliamentary boundaries for the London Borough of Ealing in 1980. (No consideration was made at that time of crossing London borough boundaries, except of course in the case of the City of London.) Labour's case was put by Neville Sandelson, only months before he defected to the SDP. It was a very convincing presentation, and my dad ruled in favour of the Labour case, much good though it did Labour in the actual election; the Conservative case was pretty shaky although it was in support of the original BC recommendations, which were just weird. The Liberals turned up & asked for PR which of course was not within the power of the BC to enact. I remember him doing an enquiry in & around Basildon too. I don't remember the others.
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Post by batman on Sept 24, 2024 7:58:21 GMT
Carlton43, Non-aligned to Reform UK.
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Post by cathyc on Sept 24, 2024 8:47:40 GMT
Carlton43, Non-aligned to Reform UK. Who just two months ago said: "PR would have delivered a whole lot more gobshite stupid, alarmingly odd and totally unworthy Greens, Reforms and Independents to beslime the green benches with inanity, incompetence and possible corruption and criminality."
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Post by johnloony on Sept 24, 2024 8:58:50 GMT
Carlton43, Non-aligned to Reform UK. Who just two months ago said: "PR would have delivered a whole lot more gobshite stupid, alarmingly odd and totally unworthy Greens, Reforms and Independents to beslime the green benches with inanity, incompetence and possible corruption and criminality." But shurely this is the new reformed Reform, with a new democratic constitutional structure, rather than the Farageist dictatorship which appointed candidates without proper scrutiny. Now that Carlton has joined the party, all the others will inevitably listen to his sage wisdom and will go storming to victory at the next general election.
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Post by cathyc on Sept 24, 2024 9:15:16 GMT
Who just two months ago said: "PR would have delivered a whole lot more gobshite stupid, alarmingly odd and totally unworthy Greens, Reforms and Independents to beslime the green benches with inanity, incompetence and possible corruption and criminality." But shurely this is the new reformed Reform, with a new democratic constitutional structure, rather than the Farageist dictatorship which appointed candidates without proper scrutiny. Now that Carlton has joined the party, all the others will inevitably listen to his sage wisdom and will go storming to victory at the next general election. Yes, that must be it.
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Post by batman on Sept 24, 2024 9:52:09 GMT
How many months do we give it until carlton loses patience with them? Or will he stick it out until the next election? All will be revealed in the next episode of.........SOAP!
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Post by sanders on Sept 24, 2024 10:53:39 GMT
Carlton43, Non-aligned to Reform UK. God help Reform UK.
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 24, 2024 10:54:22 GMT
Carlton43, Non-aligned to Reform UK. God help the Reform Party. Well he might do, you never know.
Never in when you try and canvass him.
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Post by sanders on Sept 24, 2024 10:55:41 GMT
They are stretching the definition of broad church.
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 24, 2024 11:09:05 GMT
They are stretching the definition of broad church. Surely the word broad has already done the necessary stretching?
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Crimson King
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Post by Crimson King on Sept 24, 2024 11:11:48 GMT
How many months do we give it until carlton loses patience with them? Or will he stick it out until the next election? All will be revealed in the next episode of.........SOAP! Confused? You will be.
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Post by batman on Sept 24, 2024 11:24:37 GMT
"Mom! Saunders has been shot in the temple!" "Oh my! I never knew Saunders was.......Jewish!"
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 24, 2024 11:36:06 GMT
"Mom! Saunders has been shot in the temple!" "Oh my! I never knew Saunders was.......Jewish!" Reminds me of an old newspaper report about a jailbreak or similar where "a trusty was shot in the excitement"
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Crimson King
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Post by Crimson King on Sept 24, 2024 12:31:34 GMT
"Mom! Saunders has been shot in the temple!" "Oh my! I never knew Saunders was.......Jewish!" Reminds me of an old newspaper report about a jailbreak or similar where "a trusty was shot in the excitement" I have always worried about being stabbed in the gorbals
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Post by johnloony on Sept 24, 2024 12:48:47 GMT
"Mom! Saunders has been shot in the temple!" "Oh my! I never knew Saunders was.......Jewish!" Who he? What is the reference to? Presumably not Mark Saunders, which was the only thing I found from googling en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mark_Saunders
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Post by batman on Sept 24, 2024 13:04:10 GMT
"Mom! Saunders has been shot in the temple!" "Oh my! I never knew Saunders was.......Jewish!" Who he? What is the reference to? Presumably not Mark Saunders, which was the only thing I found from googling en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mark_Saundersno. It's a quote from the fantastic former US sitcom Soap, which was a lampoon of a soap opera featuring the related Tate & Campbell families. The Tates had a butler, Saunders, who was an African-American, and he was shot in the head, thankfully IIRC surviving. It was very silly, but very funny.
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 24, 2024 13:07:21 GMT
"Mom! Saunders has been shot in the temple!" "Oh my! I never knew Saunders was.......Jewish!" Reminds me of an old newspaper report about a jailbreak or similar where "a trusty was shot in the excitement" Or the even better headline from an American paper about rape in a laundry ... 'Nut Screws Washers and Bolts'
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 24, 2024 13:08:53 GMT
"Mom! Saunders has been shot in the temple!" "Oh my! I never knew Saunders was.......Jewish!" Silly! He was a trainee barrister.
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