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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Aug 30, 2024 17:14:55 GMT
There is a case for not having party rooms at all as they can potentially cause more harm than good, but realistically I don’t think it’s a door that can be closed once opened, and I doubt it would be popular to get rid of them. It is nice to have somewhere to talk to like minded folk and sometimes let off some steam. Its not just that, but when you think of the conservative philosophy related threads and internal party business etc. in the Blue Room, they’d be trolled near constantly by the Labour and Liberal rooms. So I do think a party room is needed for blowing off steam and having discussions that otherwise wouldn’t be of interest/be trolled by others. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Aug 30, 2024 17:33:41 GMT
I think you should all stop posting right now. None of you are coming out of this well. I miss the smite buton |
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Post by aargauer on Aug 30, 2024 17:43:53 GMT
A result of the bizarre rantings of wysall in the Labour group. I like this description—you'd think I went on an antisemitic rant or something. Either way, we've already established that he'll be back in and me gone by the end of the day. If you want to go on unhinged rants about the left the blue room is waiting for you! (Actually it's quite polite). |
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Post by November_Rain on Aug 30, 2024 19:32:51 GMT
Any chance of an SDP tag?
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Post by stb12 on Aug 30, 2024 19:47:00 GMT
Any chance of an SDP tag? There you go |
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Post by November_Rain on Aug 30, 2024 20:00:29 GMT
Any chance of an SDP tag? There you go Thank you. |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Aug 30, 2024 21:13:34 GMT
I won't comment on the change of any individuals title, as I don't know enough to understand any interactions that have occurred and the subsequent decisions made, and honesty I'm not really interested in such machinations.
I will however say that for me since the General Election the standard of posting on this forum has gone down considerably with lots of posters just sitting in trenches and snipping at others, or firing troll posts from cannons at all and sundry.
Its why my posting has dropped off as I see no point in contributing to unconstructive threads.
This is only my opinion, but please note that I am only hanging in still reading the forum because I have an increasing number of posters on block.
It maybe that the posting hasn't changed since the election and its just me that has, I don't think so, but I will admit it could be both a dip in standards and me being more irritable.
I guess I'm posting this ramble as I wish for constructive posts and discussions and people to post at the higher end of their abilities rather than just react and not care if their wording may be as intentionally overly in others faces.
I know I'm not really one to talk as I have slipped to low standards on occasions, but the thing is when people post well this really is a great forum, I'm just unrealistically wishing it was that all the time.
Anyway I'm sure I will post more once my batteries have recharged a bit, maybe they're politically run down by the General Election.
Finally can i please say thanks to those who are continuing to post interesting information in all forums, and especially to the moderators who are keeping us on the relative straight and narrow, despite not expecting the level of responsibility they have given the absence of the big boss.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Aug 30, 2024 21:52:21 GMT
for me since the General Election the standard of posting on this forum has gone down considerably with lots of posters just sitting in trenches and snipping at others, or firing troll posts from cannons at all and sundry. Its why my posting has dropped off as I see no point in contributing to unconstructive threads. This is only my opinion, but please note that I am only hanging in still reading the forum because I have an increasing number of posters on block. Seconded |
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Post by Merseymike on Aug 30, 2024 22:50:24 GMT
I will however say that for me since the General Election the standard of posting on this forum has gone down considerably with lots of posters just sitting in trenches and snipping at others, or firing troll posts from cannons at all and sundry. This is only my opinion, but please note that I am only hanging in still reading the forum because I have an increasing number of posters on block. Yes. Also, I find a number of blocked posts, including 30-40% - the same old posters. |
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Post by pl on Aug 30, 2024 23:43:35 GMT
for me since the General Election the standard of posting on this forum has gone down considerably with lots of posters just sitting in trenches and snipping at others, or firing troll posts from cannons at all and sundry. Its why my posting has dropped off as I see no point in contributing to unconstructive threads. This is only my opinion, but please note that I am only hanging in still reading the forum because I have an increasing number of posters on block. Of course the forum has become more fractious since the general election. It always is so after elections - and this one as much as most. There's several reasons: 1. This forum is at its best when it's discussing election stats, polling and boundaries 2. There's precious little (relevant) polling, there's no boundary reviews on the horizon and the Counties are still a little way off 3. For all the last GE was a massive seismic shift - it's hard to divine much given the national swing. The fact we haven't had a set of locals too confirm/refute trends makes things worse 4. The 18 months leading up to the general were fractious nationwide - and this forum was not immune to this (but frankly this is a VERY sane and reasonable place to hang out for the most part) 5. Post election we've generally been in a quiet, not quite silly, season - with a few big headlines. Come the budget we will see more of what Starmer's Britain looks like and what it means for elections |
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Post by johnloony on Aug 31, 2024 0:26:35 GMT
I won't comment on the change of any individuals title, as I don't know enough to understand any interactions that have occurred and the subsequent decisions made, and honesty I'm not really interested in such machinations. I will however say that for me since the General Election the standard of posting on this forum has gone down considerably with lots of posters just sitting in trenches and snipping at others, or firing troll posts from cannons at all and sundry. Its why my posting has dropped off as I see no point in contributing to unconstructive threads. This is only my opinion, but please note that I am only hanging in still reading the forum because I have an increasing number of posters on block. It maybe that the posting hasn't changed since the election and its just me that has, I don't think so, but I will admit it could be both a dip in standards and me being more irritable. I guess I'm posting this ramble as I wish for constructive posts and discussions and people to post at the higher end of their abilities rather than just react and not care if their wording may be as intentionally overly in others faces. I know I'm not really one to talk as I have slipped to low standards on occasions, but the thing is when people post well this really is a great forum, I'm just unrealistically wishing it was that all the time. Anyway I'm sure I will post more once my batteries have recharged a bit, maybe they're politically run down by the General Election. Finally can i please say thanks to those who are continuing to post interesting information in all forums, and especially to the moderators who are keeping us on the relative straight and narrow, despite not expecting the level of responsibility they have given the absence of the big boss. I haven’t even noticed any substantial difference |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Aug 31, 2024 4:27:34 GMT
My block list has grown since the election. Tempers and temperament have been in flux and I don't have to read the results if I don't have to. As said above, we're a nerdy forum by nature and don't really succeed in being a general discussion forum. Dust will settle. It'll all calm down in time.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 31, 2024 10:04:34 GMT
2. There's precious little (relevant) polling, there's no boundary reviews on the horizon and the Counties are still a little way off The North Yorkshire "Numbers" phase is about to be published, and the "drawing lines" consultation starts on 1st October. |
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Post by wysall on Aug 31, 2024 11:04:05 GMT
A bit more than that - you have repeatedly trolled the room on an unproven allegations that you will not let go when asked repeatedly - initially courteously and then more directly and then very directly. Presumably next we will be insisting that Jimmy Savile was the poor, innocent victim of 'unproven allegations' because he was never found guilty. It is common knowledge, and attested to openly by the brother of the victim and privately to me by people from the area. It's also pretty easy to figure out from information available online: at the very least, if you believe his pathetic statement, Keir Starmer's friend was with a man while that man was boasting in public about having 'stabbed up some white boy'—that is, murdered a child. Out of interest, what response from the Labour room would we have seen to, say, Jeremy Corbyn attempting to hand a safe seat to someone who, pretending for a single second Abdul Hai's story is remotely credible, was part of a group of people going around boasting about having "stabbed up [murdered] some Jewish boy"? Or, say, David Cameron attempting to hand a safe seat to one of Stephen Lawrence's murderers (who, presumably, would be defended as having been found not guilty, rule of law and all that)? Not that either would have ever happened: which makes what has happened all the more troubling. I can't help but feel there's a double standard at work. Does it just not matter as much if the murdered child was white? |
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Post by nyx on Aug 31, 2024 11:46:15 GMT
There is a case for not having party rooms at all as they can potentially cause more harm than good, but realistically I don’t think it’s a door that can be closed once opened, and I doubt it would be popular to get rid of them. It is nice to have somewhere to talk to like minded folk and sometimes let off some steam. Its not just that, but when you think of the conservative philosophy related threads and internal party business etc. in the Blue Room, they’d be trolled near constantly by the Labour and Liberal rooms. So I do think a party room is needed for blowing off steam and having discussions that otherwise wouldn’t be of interest/be trolled by others. In that case, would it not be possible to make it so that anyone to read messages in any room, just not post? Even if I don't agree with all of the conclusions of conservative philosophy I find reading about it to be very interesting. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 31, 2024 16:10:19 GMT
And batman back to Labour again. We have normality, I repeat normality has been restored. |
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Post by cathyc on Aug 31, 2024 16:19:54 GMT
And batman back to Labour again. We have normality, I repeat normality has been restored. Class traitor.  |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Aug 31, 2024 18:37:25 GMT
And batman back to Labour again. We have normality, I repeat normality has been restored. A superb tactical temper tantrum on his part. |
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 31, 2024 18:40:23 GMT
And batman back to Labour again. We have normality, I repeat normality has been restored. Next Forum get together booked for the Restaurant at the end of the Universe. |
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Post by batman on Aug 31, 2024 20:13:30 GMT
And batman back to Labour again. We have normality, I repeat normality has been restored. Class traitor. not entirely. Class can be a complicated thing. My background is essentially upper-middle, but I have never had an executive job & would be classed as clerical non-managerial, or C1. When I ran my own business, I didn't have enough full-time employees to be ranked above C1 either. But I own my own home with my wife. Make of that mixture what you will. I do however come from a very Labour background. My dad's parents weren't very political (although Grandpa was a Liberal Party member for some years - he rarely had the chance to vote for them however, as they rarely stood candidates, and tended to vote Labour), but Labour-inclined; my mother's parents were solid Labour though not Communist which was the other main option for East End Jews in those days. My mother has been a Labour Party member since 1972, my dad was left-wing too, but only joined Labour when he had passed 80. As first a boundary commissioner, then a judge, he was disbarred from joining a political party, and when he retired he didn't really want to join under Blair, eventually doing so when Ed Miliband became leader. He was still able to knock up on polling day in the 2017 general election, aged 88, partly in tower blocks in Brentford. My sister is not a Labour Party member but has often canvassed for Labour in Southampton. It's my son who principally lets the side down, though he has had two Labour spells himself. And my cousin has been a Labour parliamentary candidate, with me proudly acting as his agent in the 2001 general election. I do however have more distant relatives in the Conservative Party, including one who served as a Conservative GLC member, then after he lost his seat as a Redbridge borough councillor. I was fond of that cousin despite our diametrically opposed political views. |
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