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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 27, 2016 15:45:41 GMT
Nah, Trump loves Scandies. He and his father pretended to be of Swedish origin for a long, long time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 17:17:04 GMT
Nah, Trump loves Scandies. He and his father pretended to be of Swedish origin for a long, long time. Only because of the stigma connected to being German. Karlstad happens to be the most logical non-German alternative to Kallstadt. |
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Post by john07 on Oct 27, 2016 20:15:04 GMT
Nah, Trump loves Scandies. He and his father pretended to be of Swedish origin for a long, long time. Trump was hyping his Scottish heritage when Alex Salmond was licking his arse. Not so now! |
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Post by john07 on Oct 27, 2016 20:17:02 GMT
Advert on Danish bus, appealing to US citizens to participate in the Presidential election. Part of me really wants the other side of the bus to have Hillary on. The bus was paid for by the Socialist People's Party, apparently - wonder what Donald thinks of that? Danes next on the list to be banned from the US? I tend to disbelieve anything I see on the side of a bus. Particularly about NHS spending! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 20:32:50 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 27, 2016 20:40:13 GMT
Nah, Trump loves Scandies. He and his father pretended to be of Swedish origin for a long, long time. Only because of the stigma connected to being German. Karlstad happens to be the most logical non-German alternative to Kallstadt. I get his father doing that, but he himself carried on into the Nineties. By which time there had been a German-American president! A defence mechanism by the father, an affectation by the son. |
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Post by john07 on Oct 27, 2016 21:09:27 GMT
Only because of the stigma connected to being German. Karlstad happens to be the most logical non-German alternative to Kallstadt. I get his father doing that, but he himself carried on into the Nineties. By which time there had been a German-American president! A defence mechanism by the father, an affectation by the son. Surely Eisenhower as a war hero from both Workd Wars would not have been considered German? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 21:15:02 GMT
I get his father doing that, but he himself carried on into the Nineties. By which time there had been a German-American president! A defence mechanism by the father, an affectation by the son. Surely Eisenhower as a war hero from both Workd Wars would not have been considered German? No, the Eisenhauers from Karlsbrunn settled in Pennsylvania in 1741. It was an old "Pennsylvania Dutch" family. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 27, 2016 21:46:24 GMT
I get his father doing that, but he himself carried on into the Nineties. By which time there had been a German-American president! A defence mechanism by the father, an affectation by the son. Surely Eisenhower as a war hero from both Workd Wars would not have been considered German? Well indeed, and nobody considers the Trumps particularly German. Anyway, only a few years after he stopped pretending to be Swedish, he was a marshal of a large German-American parade. Here's an amusing photo of a right-wing ethnic German and a right-wing ethnic Italian.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 21:50:07 GMT
Surely Eisenhower as a war hero from both Workd Wars would not have been considered German? Well indeed, and nobody considers the Trumps particularly German. Anyway, only a few years after he stopped pretending to be Swedish, he was a marshal of a large German-American parade. It was problematic to be German in NYC in the 50s and 60s, and Fred Trump was only 2nd generation. That is not comparable to being old stock Pennsylvania Dutch. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 27, 2016 21:57:02 GMT
Well indeed, and nobody considers the Trumps particularly German. Anyway, only a few years after he stopped pretending to be Swedish, he was a marshal of a large German-American parade. It was problematic to be German in NYC in the 50s and 60s, and Fred Trump was only 2nd generation. That is not comparable to being old stock Pennsylvania Dutch. Like I say, I get why Fred did it. But Donald was repeating in even in the Art of the Deal. In fact, this article here states that in the same book, he even claimed that Fred himself was an emigrant from Sweden: nordic.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-told-the-world-he-was-of-swedish-ancestry---but-its-a-lie-2016-8/My suspicion is that whilst it was convenient for Fred, it was kept going by Donald because German ancestry is not very exciting in America, where it is of course very common. Swedish has a certain glamour. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 22:00:18 GMT
It was problematic to be German in NYC in the 50s and 60s, and Fred Trump was only 2nd generation. That is not comparable to being old stock Pennsylvania Dutch. Like I say, I get why Fred did it. But Donald was repeating in even in the Art of the Deal. In fact, this article here states that in the same book, he even claimed that Fred himself was an emigrant from Sweden: nordic.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-told-the-world-he-was-of-swedish-ancestry---but-its-a-lie-2016-8/My suspicion is that whilst it was convenient for Fred, it was kept going by Donald because German ancestry is not very exciting in America, where it is of course very common. Swedish has a certain glamour. If you are a public figure with an established family history the most natural thing is to stick to it. I suppose Donald only changed it because too many people had written about the Kallstadt connection. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 28, 2016 15:45:26 GMT
An intriguing question someone put to me today.
Isn't Trump giving off a whiff of LaRouche?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 28, 2016 21:15:10 GMT
If I were an accomplished correspondent like Hala Gorani, known for guarding her political and religious convictions from the audience, I'd also be put out by having to deal with the TV character "Katie Hopkins" (played by meteorologist Katie Hopkins), who is a bit like a political Keith Lemon. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 14:03:25 GMT
I'm sure @pjones will be right on top of this case. Oh wait, it's a Trump supporter...? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 16:05:09 GMT
What's wrong with using paper and pencil. The integrity of the result should never be in question.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Oct 29, 2016 18:54:37 GMT
What's wrong with using paper and pencil. The integrity of the result should never be in question. I think this video explains quite nicely why Pencil & Paper style voting is superior to any electronic method. |
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