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Post by greenhert on May 27, 2016 21:00:39 GMT
The current 'Westmorland and Lonsdale' seat is missing a large chunk of historic Westmorland too. At least mine contains the former county town!  As does my version of Westmorland, which has Lonsdale removed from it (to the extent this is possible).
Why was Sedbergh, formerly in West Yorkshire, ever moved to the North West region? There appears to be no logical reason for including it in South Lakeland, which has the majority of the county of Westmorland (although notably not the county town of Appleby-in-Westmorland) in it.
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Post by Foggy on May 29, 2016 21:51:26 GMT
Yeah, that's probably more realistic anyway. Five larger seats entirely within Cumbria seems the way to go. I'm currently going through the rest of my North West proposals to see which bits belong here, which in 'Fantasy Constituencies' and if any can actually go into the main NW thread.
In the 1970s, the 1990s creations of statistical and administrative 'Regions' weren't really a consideration. Their were different regions for TV purposes at the time, though. There's a bit of historic Cheshire now in the East Midlands, and of course some of Hampshire ended up in the South West.
My former stepdad's late father lived in Sedbergh*. The former supported Yorkshire CCC (then again, Cumberland and Westmorland are Minor Counties) but also Manchester City FC. He must've been brought up to have a pathological dislike of any side that played at Old Trafford!
*This was the reason for my only visit there to date, nearly 19 years ago.
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Post by Adrian on Jun 2, 2016 14:27:15 GMT
Wythenshawe and Wilmslow (77309)  Dagnabbit - I've just come up with a good plan for Cheshire that takes me straight into a Wilmslow & Wythenshawe seat. Am I brave or dumb enough to submit it? (I doesn't include Prestbury or Alderley Edge, but still.) |
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Post by Foggy on Jun 2, 2016 19:39:46 GMT
I too have a plan ready for the North West that treats Wythenshawe as part of the East Chesire review sub-area, although it ends up as probably in the only seat within that area that gets away with minimum change. Wilmslow surely has to end up in the successor to Tatton, else Gideon will have a fit.
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Post by greenchristian on Jun 3, 2016 17:05:20 GMT
Wilmslow surely has to end up in the successor to Tatton, else Gideon will have a fit. Is that necessarily a bad thing?  |
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Post by krollo on Jun 3, 2016 20:05:17 GMT
Wilmslow surely has to end up in the successor to Tatton, else Gideon will have a fit. Is that necessarily a bad thing? I'm wondering now if I can contrive it to be the constituency that disappears... I shall report back. |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jun 22, 2016 22:02:11 GMT
Here's an idea for some real pitchfork bait, try to make a labour seat in surrey!!!
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 22, 2016 22:04:00 GMT
Here's an idea for some real pitchfork bait, try to make a labour seat in surrey!!! Not possible.  |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 22, 2016 22:05:41 GMT
A bit difficult given the paucity of Labour wards. The Labour group on Surrey County Council came to our local party meeting the other week; he's over 6 feet tall but that's about the only thing that's big about Labour in Surrey.
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jun 22, 2016 23:12:05 GMT
I know, as I said on 2018-WALES I am paternally from Surrey (woodham) so Nanna and Granddad are in Phillip Hammond the Foreign Secretary's seat of Runnymede and Weybridge CON Maj 44.2% ( Runnymede & Weybridge Labour - Hilarious) so I understand how ridiculously safe for Tory Surrey is as the LIBERALS are the only challenger so it's safe for quite some time bar a Liberal Surge to over 200 seats |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 22, 2016 23:17:06 GMT
I know, as I said on 2018-WALES I am paternally from Surrey (woodham) so Nanna and Granddad are in Phillip Hammond the Foreign Secretary's seat of Runnymede and Weybridge CON Maj 44.2% ( Runnymede & Weybridge Labour - Hilarious) so I understand how ridiculously safe for Tory Surrey is as the LIBERALS are the only challenger so it's safe for quite some time bar a Liberal Surge to over 200 seats I know what you mean but it isn't that hilarious and it's by no means the most Tory part of Surrey. Some of the wards fought this year were - if not very close - by no means out of sight. www.runnymede.gov.uk/electionresults |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 7:18:47 GMT
I'm sure we know The Situation in Surrey
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 23, 2016 7:31:22 GMT
I'm sure we know The Situation in Surrey West Sussex ? |
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Post by YL on Jul 23, 2016 6:46:12 GMT
I've changed my mind and decided to post this little monstrosity, but it's going in this thread rather than the main Y&H one. AustralianSwingVoter might find it useful. Sheffield, Barnsley and Rotherham with no split wards:  Sheffield Moorlands & Penistone 73,202 Sheffield, Hillsborough & Ecclesall 71,212 Sheffield, Heeley 78,366 Mosborough & Maltby 74,601 Rotherham South & Attercliffe 74,452 Sheffield Central & Masbrough 77,301 Ecclesfield & Wentworth 76,792 Barnsley North 71,128 Barnsley South & Wath 71,775 Rotherham North 72,254 Note that Rotherham town is split into four. The Moorlands & Penistone seat is not connected by road, and Ecclesall & Hillsborough only just is. |
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 23, 2016 8:39:38 GMT
On the other hand, if it's a no-ward-split solution the Commission might like it.
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 23, 2016 8:52:19 GMT
I've changed my mind and decided to post this little monstrosity, but it's going in this thread rather than the main Y&H one. AustralianSwingVoter might find it useful. Sheffield, Barnsley and Rotherham with no split wards: Sheffield Moorlands & Penistone 73,202 Sheffield, Hillsborough & Ecclesall 71,212 Sheffield, Heeley 78,366 Mosborough & Maltby 74,601 Rotherham South & Attercliffe 74,452 Sheffield Central & Masbrough 77,301 Ecclesfield & Wentworth 76,792 Barnsley North 71,128 Barnsley South & Wath 71,775 Rotherham North 72,254 Note that Rotherham town is split into four. The Moorlands & Penistone seat is not connected by road, and Ecclesall & Hillsborough only just is. THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOO MUCH YL, I HAVE SPENT 3 WHOLE DAYS TRYING TO FIND A NO SPLIT WARDS MAP FOR SOUTH YORKSHIRE, YOU ARE AMAZING AND YOUR TIMING IS FANTASTIC AS I WAS JUST ABOUT TO GIVE UP |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 24, 2016 3:36:34 GMT
So here is my improvement on YL Sheffield no ward split map (it doesn't really deserve to be in Pitchfork Bait, it's only here to show my improvement on YL plan which was posted here (Quite Fairly)) I give you... AN IMPROVED SHEFFIELD NO WARD SPLIT Eternal Gratitude to YL of without whom I could of never figured out this plan Sheffield, Rotherham & Barnsley Mosborough & Maltby 71519 Rotherham South 76941 Rotherham North 71595 Sheffield Heeley 78448 Sheffield Central 77699 Sheffield Hillsborough & Ecclesall 71212 Sheffield Hallam, Penistone & Stocksbridge 73202 Sheffield Ecclesfield 77744 Barnsley South & Wath 71775 Barnsley North 71128 South YorkshireAnd just to prove that I couldn't have done it without YL original plan, an assessment of the differences between my plan and YL original plan MOSBOROUGH & MALTBY -Birley TO SHEFFIELD HEELEY +Holderness FROM ROTHERHAM SOUTH & ATTERCLIFFE ROTHERHAM SOUTH ROTHERHAM SOUTH & ATTERCLIFFE renamed and -Holderness TO MOSBOROUGH & MALTBY -Brinsworth & Catcliff AND Darnall TO SHEFFIELD CENTRAL & MASBROUGH +Hellaby AND Rotherham East AND Valley AND Wickersley FROM ROTHERHAM NORTH ROTHERHAM NORTH -Hellaby AND Rotherham East AND Valley AND Wickersley TO ROTHERHAM SOUTH & ATTERCLIFFE +Rotherham West FROM SHEFFIELD CENTRAL & MASBROUGH +Hoober AND Hoyland Milton AND Rockingham FROM ECCLESFIELD & WENTWORTH SHEFFIELD HEELEY -Manor Castle TO SHEFFIELD CENTRAL & MASBROUGH +Birley FROM MOSBOROUGH & MALTBY SHEFFIELD CENTRAL SHEFFIELD CENTRAL & MASBROUGH renamed and -Rotherham West TO ROTHERHAM NORTH -Firth Park AND Shiregreen and Brightside TO ECCLESFIELD & WENTWORTH +Brinsworth & Catcliff AND Darnall FROM ROTHERHAM SOUTH & ATTERCLIFFE +Manor Castle FROM SHEFFIELD HEELEY SHEFFIELD HILLSBOROUGH & ECCLESALL IDENTICAL SHEFFIELD HALLAM, PENISTONE & STOCKSBRIDGE IDENTICAL SHEFFIELD MOORLANDS & PENISTONE renamed SHEFFIELD ECCLESFIELD ECCLESFIELD & WENTWORTH renamed and -Hoober AND Hoyland Milton AND Rockingham TO ROTHERHAM NORTH +Firth Park AND Shiregreen and Brightside FROM SHEFFIELD CENTRAL & MASBROUGH BARNSLEY SOUTH & WATH IDENTICAL BARNSLEY NORTH IDENTICAL So 4 seats identical (BARNSLEY NORTH, BARNSLEY SOUTH & WATH, SHEFFIELD HILLSBOROUGH & ECCLESALL, SHEFFIELD MOORLANDS & PENISTONE) another 2 with minor changes (MOSBOROUGH & MALTBY, SHEFFIELD HEELEY) and 4 with major changes (ECCLESFIELD & WENTWORTH, ROTHERHAM NORTH, ROTHERHAM SOUTH & ATTERCLIFFE, SHEFFIELD CENTRAL & MASBROUGH) |
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jul 26, 2016 22:12:20 GMT
 This one began as an earnest and sincere attempt, but as you can see, something kinda went wrong. I initially tried to merge Aberconwy with Bangor without adding the likes of Colwyn Bay to the constituency, can't be done it seems. |
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Aug 5, 2016 14:42:17 GMT
A pair of constituencies that follow the path of the A470 road, which goes North to South down through Wales directly from Llandudno to Cardiff. The whole thing:  A closer view of the northern stretch:  A closer view of the southern end: (May have a few extra bits attached in order to meet quota...)  |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Aug 11, 2016 9:54:02 GMT
A pair of constituencies that follow the path of the A470 road, which goes North to South down through Wales directly from Llandudno to Cardiff. The whole thing: A closer view of the northern stretch: A closer view of the southern end: (May have a few extra bits attached in order to meet quota...) 1 - I'm back!!! 2 - But are the areas east and west of your constituencies close enough to a quota as so to make the rest of wales work (I'm overthinking it) |
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