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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 19:43:40 GMT
Adrian I've seen your Lancs proposals. Crossing into Southport isn't necessary, i think West Lancs can be a seat on its own under current numbers. Ingol should remain in Preston, it was an ill fit when it was in Fylde; there's no reason to add it to such a large rural consistency as you do. That aside, I like much of what you've come up with. I prefer Southport going into West Lancs. it probably creates a better Southport seat, and avoids splitting Formby. I'd rather like to see it too, and it's what the NW LibDems proposed at the zombie review! Unfortunately Lancs doesn't need to borrow any wards from neighbours this time..... |
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Post by Adrian on Jul 6, 2016 21:01:24 GMT
"Lancs doesn't need to borrow any wards." This is very true, and it does go against my principles, but I decided in the end it was a reasonable price to pay for being able to use more of the district boundaries in Mid Lancs. (And for the Sefton/Knowsley/Liverpool reasons too.) In this sense I'm just agreeing with those on the forum who came up with a similar idea. As far as Ingol-in-Lunesdale is concerned, I did find various unsatisfactory ways of avoiding it, but in the end I decided that since part of Preston is currently in the North Lancs seat, and I already had a few wards from Preston borough in the seat, it was a reasonable compromise. Anyway, as usual I've put the plan out there in order to create discussion. ukelect.wordpress.com/2016/06/28/2018-review-lancashire/ |
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Post by Adrian on Jul 9, 2016 21:16:59 GMT
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Post by YL on Jul 11, 2016 18:26:49 GMT
Rather few ward splits by your standards  Renaming Oldham East & Saddleworth to just "Oldham East" is about a pitchforky thing as it is possible to do, isn't it? |
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Post by Foggy on Jul 11, 2016 19:15:07 GMT
My plan dubs the two seats in the Borough of Oldham 'Chadderton and Failsworth' and 'Saddleworth and Medlock'. On reflection, I'm not sure the latter sounds quite right, but it does show that there's no need to mention Oldham in the names at all.
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Post by greenhert on Jul 11, 2016 20:33:40 GMT
I disagree-Oldham is an actual town, not merely the name of a local authority. At least one of the constituencies should mention the Oldham name and this will almost certainly be the eastern one at least (Oldham & Saddleworth).
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Post by Adrian on Jul 11, 2016 20:54:00 GMT
I'm in two or three minds about the naming business. When there was a poll on here a while back about naming conventions I said that I prefer to keep to them, but as I go along I'm becoming more "post-modern" in my approach, and think that the naming should mostly be left up to locals. My main caveat to that is that long names are a waste of breath, ink and bandwidth, so the BCE should prod people towards choosing shorter names if possible.
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Post by islington on Jul 11, 2016 21:15:22 GMT
Adrian, I'd recommend that you stick to your guns on this one - the boundary goes virtually through the middle of Oldham and I'd support your instinct to keep the names as short and simple as possible.
The Hackney seats, in London, should likewise be shortened; the present names preserve the names of otherwise-forgotten boroughs that ceased to exist when the LCC became the GLC over half a century ago.
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 11, 2016 21:58:20 GMT
I'd support shortening Oldham West, but not Oldham East - Saddleworth is culturally different from Oldham and still thinks it's in a different county.
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Post by Adrian on Jul 11, 2016 22:18:41 GMT
A compromise might be to call the seat "Oldham Saddleworth" (hyphenated perhaps?) - at least it's not 4 words.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 22:33:30 GMT
I'm sure tricky would have an opinion |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 11, 2016 22:51:59 GMT
Could be tricky to get it out of him.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 12, 2016 7:43:23 GMT
I'd support shortening Oldham West, but not Oldham East - Saddleworth is culturally different from Oldham and it's in a different county. FTFY |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 19, 2016 2:18:18 GMT
Lancashire Lancaster 76426 Valleys of Ribble, Lune & Wyre (how very doktorb) alternative name Lunesdale, Wyre & Ribble Valley or just Ribble Valley & Wyre 76213 Blackpool North 73908 Fylde 71765 Blackpool South 72993 Preston 77324 Pendle 73223 Burnley 75337 Hyndburn 77082 Blackburn 77126 Rossendale & Darwen 72979 South Ribble 74984 Chorley 75588 West Lancashire 76361  |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 21, 2016 23:27:24 GMT
Merseyside with Halton and NO Wirral Liverpool, Sefton, Knowsley, St Helens & Halton Southport 74641 Sefton & Kirkby 78110 Bootle & Crosby 76615 Liverpool Walton 78029 Liverpool Wavertree 78104 Liverpool Riverside 76003 Liverpool Garston 76265 Knowsley 75085 St Helens North 72060 St Helens South 75378 Halton 76096  |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 22, 2016 0:34:36 GMT
Cheshire and Wirral without Halton Birkenhead 72957 Wallasey 74240 South Wirral 76920 Ellesmere Port & Neston 77028 Chester 77069 Vale Royal 76996 Northwich 78456 Crewe & Nantwich 76041 Macclesfield & Congleton 76931 Wilmslow 75754 Warrington South 76131 Warrington North 76858  |
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Post by Adrian on Jul 22, 2016 9:08:57 GMT
Merseyside with Halton and NO Wirral Liverpool, Sefton, Knowsley, St Helens & Halton Southport 74641 Sefton & Kirkby 78110 Bootle & Crosby 76615 Liverpool Walton 78029 Liverpool Wavertree 78104 Liverpool Riverside 76003 Liverpool Garston 76265 Knowsley 75085 St Helens North 72060 St Helens South 75378 Halton 76096 MerseysideHow many seats have you got for the North West region? |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 22, 2016 9:53:13 GMT
Merseyside with Halton and NO Wirral Liverpool, Sefton, Knowsley, St Helens & Halton Southport 74641 Sefton & Kirkby 78110 Bootle & Crosby 76615 Liverpool Walton 78029 Liverpool Wavertree 78104 Liverpool Riverside 76003 Liverpool Garston 76265 Knowsley 75085 St Helens North 72060 St Helens South 75378 Halton 76096 How many seats have you got for the North West region? I'm sorry, but what does that mean? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 11:14:28 GMT
How many seats have you got for the North West region? I'm sorry, but what does that mean? What is the total number of seats across the NW in your proposals? |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 22, 2016 11:25:17 GMT
Merseyside with Halton and NO Wirral Liverpool, Sefton, Knowsley, St Helens & Halton Southport 74641 Sefton & Kirkby 78110 Bootle & Crosby 76615 Liverpool Walton 78029 Liverpool Wavertree 78104 Liverpool Riverside 76003 Liverpool Garston 76265 Knowsley 75085 St Helens North 72060 St Helens South 75378 Halton 76096 MerseysideHow many seats have you got for the North West region? 5 in Cumbria 14 in Lancashire 11 in Merseyside & Halton 12 in Cheshire & Wirral 25 in Greater Manchester OH - only 67 |
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