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Post by greatkingrat on Feb 24, 2016 20:15:19 GMT
Coventry is now too small for 3 seats, will presumably have to add the Meriden ward from Solihull. May well result in very tight Con/Lab marginal.
Difficult to know how they will approach the rest of the region. It all depends how willing they will be to split wards, eg Birmingham could have 9 seats on its own but would require several splits.
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Post by andrewteale on Feb 25, 2016 1:13:14 GMT
Herefordshire, Shropshire, Worcestershire and Warwickshire can't stand alone. It's obvious to group the first three in that list for 12 seats, and I fancy the idea of pairing Coventry and Warwickshire for 8. That would give 2 for Solihull, 9 for Birmingham, 11 for the Black Country and 11 for Staffordshire.
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Post by John Chanin on Feb 25, 2016 1:19:06 GMT
I managed Birmingham with 4 ward splits last time, but including the 3 obvious ones in Perry Barr, Nechells, and South Yardley. I'm inclined to lobby for the use of the new ward boundaries this time, which will be confirmed before the Boundary Commission publishes parliamentary proposals. It may prove possible to avoid ward splits.
However my reading is that there will need to be 2 seats that cross the Birmingham boundaries in order to deal with Warwickshire, Coventry, and Solihull.
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Feb 25, 2016 12:08:16 GMT
My first offering of Warwickshire North was not liked by a Coleshill councillor I know as being "not enough Bedworth" so I have added Bedworth and he has given it his blessing therefore wish to formally submit "North Warwickshire and Bedworth" North Warwickshire Borough Council: Arley and Whitacre, Atherstone Central, Atherstone North, Atherstone South and Mancetter, Baddesley and Grendon, Coleshill North, Coleshill South, Curdworth, Dordon, Fillongley, Hartshill, Hurley and Wood End, Kingsbury, Newton Regis and Warton, Polesworth East, Polesworth West, Water Orton Nuneaton and Bedworth Borough Council: Bede, Exhall, Heath, Poplar, Slough Total Electorate: 74,124 (99.1% of electoral quota)  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 12:12:16 GMT
As ever, Harry, that one seat has to fit with every one if its immediate neighbours *and* those across the WM region. In isolation, it works. Within the entire region, it may not.
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Post by Richard Allen on Feb 25, 2016 15:12:12 GMT
Coventry is now too small for 3 seats, will presumably have to add the Meriden ward from Solihull. May well result in very tight Con/Lab marginal. Unless you split a Coventry ward this won't work unless you also add Bickenhill ward. It is more likely that Coventry gets paired with Warwickshire. |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Feb 25, 2016 16:19:27 GMT
Nuneaton is next (as I am slowly working my way through Warwickshire) Nuneaton and Bedworth Borough Council: Abbey, Arbury, Attleborough, Bar Pool, Bulkington, Camp Hill, Galley Common, Kingswood, St Nicolas, Weddington, Wem Brook, Whitestone Rugby Borough Council: Wolvey and Shilton, Revel and Binley Woods, Wolston and the Lawfords Electorate: 76,385 (102.16% of electoral quota)  |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Feb 26, 2016 19:28:02 GMT
I have now managed to come up with a Rugby, Stratford and Warwick that fit into the rules, the only problem now is that trying to fit the bits of Warwick that don't fit into Warwick into Coventry leaves me with St. Michael's ward going nowhere (as it makes Coventry's three seats all over quota)
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Feb 26, 2016 19:30:05 GMT
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Post by greatkingrat on Feb 26, 2016 19:57:21 GMT
I have now managed to come up with a Rugby, Stratford and Warwick that fit into the rules, the only problem now is that trying to fit the bits of Warwick that don't fit into Warwick into Coventry leaves me with St. Michael's ward going nowhere (as it makes Coventry's three seats all over quota) Sounds fine, voting for Dave Nellist should be grounds for disenfranchisement anyway, |
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 26, 2016 20:20:09 GMT
I have now managed to come up with a Rugby, Stratford and Warwick that fit into the rules, the only problem now is that trying to fit the bits of Warwick that don't fit into Warwick into Coventry leaves me with St. Michael's ward going nowhere (as it makes Coventry's three seats all over quota) Sounds fine, voting for Dave Nellist should be grounds for disenfranchisement anyway, Whatever you think of his politics, Nellist was a good constituency MP, and a good local councillor. |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Feb 27, 2016 12:42:00 GMT
Done it!
Coventry South: (from Warwick) Park Hill, Abbey, St John's, Stoneleigh & Cubbington (from Coventry) St Michael's, Wainbody, Earlsdon, Foleshill, Whoberley (75,655)
Coventry West: Westwood, Woodlands, Bablake, Sherbourne, Radford, Holbrook (72,081)
Coventry East: Cheylesmore, Upper Stoke, Binley and Willenhall, Henley, Wyken, Longford, Lower Stoke (78,343)
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Post by John Chanin on Feb 27, 2016 15:37:14 GMT
Hmm. Methinks the good people of Kenilworth will be none too delighted with this. I'll see if there's a better option when I return from holiday.
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Post by andrewteale on Feb 27, 2016 16:03:29 GMT
It would have the benefit of uniting the Warwick University campus within one seat.
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Post by John Chanin on Feb 27, 2016 16:20:00 GMT
There is no residential in the Warwick part of the campus.
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 27, 2016 21:23:40 GMT
There is no residential in the Warwick part of the campus. Not true. There are halls on both sides of the county boundary. I was a student there in 1997, and I voted in Rugby & Kenilworth constituency. There was a polling station for that part of campus, set up in my halls of residence. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 27, 2016 22:34:57 GMT
How do you end up putting Foleshill in Coventry South ?!?  |
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 28, 2016 1:33:48 GMT
How do you end up putting Foleshill in Coventry South ?!? Good question. That proposal would make a lot more sense if you put Foleshill in East and Cheylesmore in South. I haven't looked at the new numbers yet to check that's viable, but the Coventry wards are pretty similar sizes to each other. |
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Post by greenhert on Mar 6, 2016 20:34:46 GMT
This particular region will be very difficult for the Boundary Commission to draw new constituencies from carefully enough, so some usable sample constituencies here would help. Ward splitting is for the most part unavoidable due to the ward sizes being larger, often much larger, than the numerical electoral range into which constituencies can fit under the rules of this review (which is 7476).
The urban West Midlands (a complete redrawing is needed, really):
1. Sutton Coldfield. Unchanged from current boundaries. Electorate: 73,172.
2. Birmingham Erdington. The Birmingham wards of Kingstanding, Erdington, Stockland Green and Tyburn, plus half of the Oscott ward. Electorate: 76,450 approx.
3. Birmingham Hodge Hill. The Birmingham wards of Shard End, Bordesley Green, Washwood Heath, Hodge Hill, and part of Stetchford & Yardley North. Electorate: 78,200 approx.
4. Birmingham Handsworth. The Birmingham wards of Soho, Handsworth Wood, Lozells Heath, and Perry Barr, plus half of the Oscott ward. Electorate: 74,200 approx.
5. Birmingham Yardley. The Birmingham wards of Stetchford & Yardley North (part), South Yardley, Sheldon, Acocks Green, and two-thirds of Springfield ward. Electorate: 77,600 approx.
6. Birmingham Central. The Birmingham wards of Aston, Ladywood, Nechells, Edgbaston (part) and Sparkbrook. Electorate: 77,800 approx.
7. Birmingham Hall Green. The Birmingham wards of Hall Green, Kings Norton, Brandwood, and Billesley, plus part of Springfield. Electorate: 77,250 approx.
8. Birmingham Northfield. The Birmingham wards of Longbridge, Northfield, Bartley Green, and Quinton, plus one-third of Weoley. Electorate: 75,200 approx.
9. Birmingham Edgbaston & Selly Oak. The Birmingham wards of Selly Oak, Bournville, Moseley & Kings Heath, Harborne, and Edgbaston (part). Electorate: 77,100 approx.
10. Coventry North East. Unchanged from current boundaries. Electorate: 72,135.
11. Coventry South. All Coventry wards in the current Coventry South constituency plus half of Meriden ward from Solihull. Electorate: 71,900 approx.
12. Coventry North West. All Coventry wards in the current Coventry North West constituency plus half of Meriden ward from Solihull. Electorate: 75,200 approx.
13. Solihull. All the wards in the existing Solihull constituency but with part of Elmdon ward moved to Meriden. Electorate: 72,000 approx.
14. Meriden. The Meriden wards of Elmdon (part), Castle Bromwich, Smith's Wood, Chelmsley Wood, Knowle, Blythe, Dorridge & Dockley Heath, Water Orton, Bickenhill, & Kingshurst & Fordbridge. Electorate: 72,400 approx.
15. Wolverhampton West. All Wolverhampton wards within the current Wolverhampton South West constituency plus the wards of Oxley and Blakenhall (part). Electorate: 71,200 approx.
16. Wolverhampton East. The Wolverhampton wards of Blakenhall (part) Bilston North, Bilston East, Ettingshall, Heath Town, Spring Vale, Bushbury North, Bushbury South & Low Hill, and East Park. Electorate: 73,100 approx.
17. Wednesfield & Walsall West. The Wolverhampton wards of Fallings Park, Wednesfield North/South, Willenhall North/South, Short Heath, Bentley & Darlaston North, and Darlaston South. Electorate: 72,482.
18. Aldridge, Brownhills, and Bloxwich. All Walsall wards within the existing Aldridge-Brownhills constituency, plus the wards of Bloxwich East and Bloxwich West. Electorate: 76,572.
19. Walsall. The Walsall wards of Blakenall, Birchills Leamore, Paddock, St. Matthew's, Palfrey, Pleck, Pheasey Park Farm, and the Sandwell ward of Great Barr & Yew Tree Electorate: 73,255.
20. West Bromwich & Smethwick. The Sandwell wards of Charlemont with Grove Vale, Newton, West Bromwich Central, Bristnall, Soho & Victoria, Smethwick, and St Pauls, plus part of Hateley Heath. Electorate: 72,100 approx.
21. Wednesbury & Tipton. The Sandwell wards of Tipton Green, Wednesbury North/South, Greats Green & Lyng, Princes End, Great Bridge, Oldbury and Friar Park, plus part of Hateley Heath. Electorate: 72,100 approx.
22. Dudley. The Dudley wards of Coseley East, Netherton, Woodside & St Andrew's, St Thomas's, Sedgley, Castle & Priory, and Upper Gormal & Woodbetton. plus half of St James's. Electorate: 75,400 approx.
23. Brierley Hill. The Dudley wards of Kingswinford North & Wall Heath, Kingswinford South, Brockmoor & Pensett, Wordsley, Brierley Hill, Quarry Bank & Dudley Wood, and Amblecote, plus half of St James's. Electorate: 75,400 approx.
24. Stourbridge. The Dudley wards of Lye & Wollescote, Pedmore & Stourbridge East, Norton, Cradley & Foxcote, Hayley Green & Cradley South, Wollaston & Stourbridge Town, and Belle Vale, and the Sandwell ward of Cradley Heath & Old Hill. Electorate: 78,506.
25. Halesowen & Rowley Regis. The Dudley wards of Halesowen North/South, plus the Sandwell wards of Blackheath, Rowley, Tividale, Langley, Old Warley, and Abbey. Electorate: 72,196.
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Post by iain on Mar 6, 2016 21:22:20 GMT
I find it somewhat unlikely that a seat which does not contain Perry Barr would be called Birmingham Perry Barr.
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