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Post by neilm on Feb 17, 2016 13:59:59 GMT
Three of those four left the party, of course. Driberg's personal life was outrageous (and it remains a minor miracle he escaped disgrace during his lifetime) but he tended to the left politically speaking. His memoir "Ruling Passions" is eye-poppingly shameless in places. At the age of 19 Tom Driberg visited Italy with his mother. At Portofino he climbed the lighthouse where he found a 'sensuously attractive young lighthouse- keeper'. Things moved quickly - He had clearly not had any sex for some days. Within five minutes or so I had rejoined my mother. `What a long time you were up there dear'. 'Well it was a lovely view mother'.Why dear old Michael Foot agreed to write a forward to this tasteless cavalcade of lechery I can't imagine. Didn't Foot once say that Driberg was plagued by loneliness and that he felt sorry for him? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 14:21:51 GMT
His memoir "Ruling Passions" is eye-poppingly shameless in places. At the age of 19 Tom Driberg visited Italy with his mother. At Portofino he climbed the lighthouse where he found a 'sensuously attractive young lighthouse- keeper'. Things moved quickly - He had clearly not had any sex for some days. Within five minutes or so I had rejoined my mother. `What a long time you were up there dear'. 'Well it was a lovely view mother'.Why dear old Michael Foot agreed to write a forward to this tasteless cavalcade of lechery I can't imagine. Didn't Foot once say that Driberg was plagued by loneliness and that he felt sorry for him? That was the view of most people who knew Driberg. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Feb 17, 2016 19:03:36 GMT
Three of those four left the party, of course. Driberg's personal life was outrageous (and it remains a minor miracle he escaped disgrace during his lifetime) but he tended to the left politically speaking. Indeed so. But they were examples of cultivated and even patrician MPs only now found in the Conservative Party, A Paget was even to the right of many Conservatives at that time! I think your party benefitted enormously from having them, both by retaining constituencies now quite out of reach and by having them as leavening within, rather as Henry Brooke, Meyer, Damian Green and Ken Clarke were/are a benefit to the Conservatives. But not the likes of say Shaun Woodward who just changed horses to stay in power and is for my part a part of the modern problem in politics. I'm not sure that the argument that they were an electoral boon necessarily stands up. Sandelson was famously unsuccessful in getting elected to parliament; the Pembrokeshire seats are still winnable if we're a few points ahead; Wyatt won Bosworth because it was a mining seat and we can't win it now because it isn't; Driberg's election in Maldon was a function of the war, and his re-elections were largely due to Braintree and Witham, neither of which would have been terribly fertile ground for patrician politicians then (slightly more so now, but still not overly.) I can see a case that such politicians might do better now, since there's more of a tendency to vote for 'a good constituency MP' (whatever that means). But most of those you've named weren't even particularly diligent constituency representatives. |
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Post by john07 on Feb 18, 2016 10:44:26 GMT
Or Neville Sandelson, Desmond Donnelly, Woodrow Wyatt, Tom Driberg, and so many others. Three of those four left the party, of course. Driberg's personal life was outrageous (and it remains a minor miracle he escaped disgrace during his lifetime) but he tended to the left politically speaking. Driberg had friends in high places, notable Beaverbrook, and that might explain his escapes from public disgrace. |
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Post by mick745 on Jun 12, 2017 18:18:03 GMT
I believe there were 12 retreads this year the highest total since 1997.
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andrea
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Post by andrea on Jun 12, 2017 18:56:43 GMT
Who are the 12?
Chris Williamson
David Drew
Chris Ruane
John Grogan
Vince Cable
Jo Swinson
Stephen Lloyd
Ed Davey
Michelle Gildernew
Esther McVey
Who are the other 2?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 12, 2017 19:01:25 GMT
Zac Goldsmith and Tony Lloyd.
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Post by mick745 on Dec 17, 2019 20:25:45 GMT
There are 15 retreads following the 2019 General Election, the highest number since 1997 and the second highest since February 1974:
CONSERVATIVE
Caroline Ansell
James Davies
Flick Drummond
Richard Fuller
Karl McCartney
Jason McCartney
Amanda Solloway
Edward Timpson
Craig Williams
LIBERAL DEMOCRAT
Sarah Olney
SCOTTISH NATIONAL PARTY
Kirsten Oswald
Owen Thompson
Anne McLoughlin
John Nicholson
Margaret Ferrier
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